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  • Cropping PDF in Acrobat or Pitstop

    Hi All,
    This question has come up on various times for us, I know and confirm cropping in Acrobat is not a permanent change. It is in fact more like masking out unwanted areas. That said, does Pitstop function the same? (we don't have Pitstop)

    We need to supply web division with bookmarked PDF and cropped without trim marks. The issue is that we often received old/new press-ready PDFs that already has trim marks created, ideally, we like to remove those trim marks and not just masking it out.

    Any suggestion is appreciated. Thank you.

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    Re: Cropping PDF in Acrobat or Pitstop

    Place the PDF into a new inDesign document the size you want it to be.
    Export to PDF - with "Crop to data frames" checked and the settings you need.

    MSD

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    • #3
      Re: Cropping PDF in Acrobat or Pitstop

      > {quote:title=Tech wrote:}{quote}
      > The issue is that we often received old/new press-ready PDFs that already has trim marks created,
      >

      Then the investment in PitStop will pay itself off in no time....


      Honestly, I don't understand how *any* publisher can compete these days without some type of PDF editor. It's as vital as Photoshop.

      just my 2 cents..

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      • #4
        Re: Cropping PDF in Acrobat or Pitstop

        > {quote:title=WharfRat wrote:}{quote}
        > Place the PDF into a new inDesign document the size you want it to be.
        > Export to PDF - with "Crop to data frames" checked and the settings you need.
        >
        > MSD

        Thank you, I'll try this out.

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        • #5
          Re: Cropping PDF in Acrobat or Pitstop

          > {quote:title=gig0 wrote:}{quote}
          > > {quote:title=Tech wrote:}{quote}
          > > The issue is that we often received old/new press-ready PDFs that already has trim marks created,
          > >
          >
          > Then the investment in PitStop will pay itself off in no time....
          >
          >
          > Honestly, I don't understand how *any* publisher can compete these days without some type of PDF editor. It's as vital as Photoshop.
          >
          > just my 2 cents..

          Next time, try to understand what the question is and answer it before you go off tangent.

          FYI, publishers are content providers and that's how we stay competitive, having a PDF editor DOESN"T make great books nor sell them. Maybe you like to explain it to my boss why it's important to have Pitstop just to remove trim marks for another division...out of his budget too?

          Edited by: Tech on Nov 19, 2007 12:11 AM

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          • #6
            Re: Cropping PDF in Acrobat or Pitstop

            On a similar note, when one deletes pages in a PDF, the file size doesn't seem to change.

            Is there a way to tell Acrobat to get rid of any resources/pics/fonts etc. that are not being used in the PDF after pages have been deleted?

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            • #7
              Re: Cropping PDF in Acrobat or Pitstop

              If you do a File->Save As, Acrobat will remove all unused information in
              the PDF (aka garbage collection).

              File->Save, however, is designed as a "fast save" and does not do so.

              Leonard

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              • #8
                Re: Cropping PDF in Acrobat or Pitstop

                Ah, yes, that works; thanks! Nice and simple solution there.

                gig0: FYI, publishers also seem to have a short temper, eh?

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                • #9
                  Re: Cropping PDF in Acrobat or Pitstop

                  Hey, Tech,

                  Whoa, there. gig0 is right. If you're working without PitStop then you have "one hand tied behind your back".

                  With PitStop you can select the crop marks and delete them.

                  rich

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                  • #10
                    Re: Cropping PDF in Acrobat or Pitstop

                    You can also do this with Acrobat 8's Object Touchup Tool as well.

                    Just select the object (or drag a selection rectangle for a group of
                    objects) and then hit delete.

                    Leonard

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                    • #11
                      Re: Cropping PDF in Acrobat or Pitstop

                      I'm not disagreeing with the functions and importance of PitStop. It's gig0's tone that bother me without fully understanding the situation. If you speak to publishers, you'll be hard to convince any of them in acquiring it. They see PitStop as prepress software, and that is not the business they are in. I deal with designer files everyday and PDFs created in-house won't need any editorial changes using PitStop. We rather update original layout files and generate new PDFs.

                      The situations where PitStop will be helpful for us is only when we are dealing with external PDFs that we didn't create ourselves. Even so, the need to remove crop marks has been few and far in between up to this point in time.

                      While we are at this, I did installed a demo of PitStop, am I crazy to find the cropping tool a bit confusing to use? Why the use of X-Y axis as to crop a page? How do you determine the X-Y axis accurately? Using guides?

                      Thanks.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Cropping PDF in Acrobat or Pitstop

                        > {quote:title=leonardr wrote:}{quote}
                        > You can also do this with Acrobat 8's Object Touchup Tool as well.
                        >
                        > Just select the object (or drag a selection rectangle for a group of
                        > objects) and then hit delete.
                        >
                        > Leonard

                        Thanks Leo, but we need to have the correct trim size as well not simply deleting trim marks.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Cropping PDF in Acrobat or Pitstop

                          We work with many very large publishers who ALL use Pitstop. They may
                          be content companies, but most would realize that if their delivered
                          product in in PDF format or uses PDF as an intermediate format to
                          printing, that they would require sophisticated tools for working
                          with PDF.

                          David Wolfe

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                          • #14
                            Re: Cropping PDF in Acrobat or Pitstop

                            Hi David,
                            Are we talking about full PDF workflow publishers here? Are they using PitStop only to preflight or actually does more with it? If so, what's your role as prepress/vendor to them? Does your sales team slap your publishers with higher quote fees for badly prepare PDFs? If so, that alone is a good reason why ALL your large publishers invest in PitStop.

                            I hate to say this but having a piece of software isn't the same as using it to it's full capabilities. Just because designers have entire Adobe CS suite, doesn't mean they all know how to create a masterpiece painting using Photoshop.

                            Anyway, I generally find this forum to be helpful and appreciate the help I receive here, I'm not here to argue with anyone. I'm offended when someone tells me what seems to be obvious and true when we all know that isn't always the case.

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