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    Anyone using Metrix?

    http://www.lithotechnics.com/metrix.html

    We still have problems with jobs being estimated based on bad press layouts, usually doesn't get caught until the job hits prepress. Sometimes have to wonder how a job was estimated when it won't physically fit on the sheet

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    Cory,

    Are your estimators making the same sort of mistakes? It could be a training issue. Or many times the problem isn't so much that the estimator is making a "mistake" as much as upper management is disagreeing with Production about what will and won't fit. That topic can get sticky sometimes.

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    • #3
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      I think our shop is going for it. Our planners/estimators are still using pencil and paper and a calculator. Talk about mistakes. Do you like Metrix? It seems very useful.

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        Metrix has really helped our business. The support has been great. Ask for Joel OR Davo. Gre
        at guys.

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        • #5
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          we are currently using the trial, and so far its great.
          Ernie

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          • #6
            Re: Metrix by LithoTechnics

            What's the damage? What's your ROI?

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              Check out the demo vid on lithotechnics website. The decked out version is 12K (1 dongle license), but there are cheaper options. The software could possibly pay for itself within the first month (depending on your workflow). I work for a package printing shop so this software is perfect for us as far as ganging goes. I haven't used it much for books though.

              We bought our trial version from the lady below. It was the cheapest trial i could find. Alot of companies will try to sell you training, but any good prepress operator could set it up easy. I played around with it for a day or so to work out the kinks.

              Bernie Bishop
              Director of Technology
              and New Business Development

              A P Graph, Inc.
              9605 Girard Avenue South
              Bloomington, Mn 55431
              952.888.4340 Office
              952.698.1069 Direct
              651.245.7432 Mobile
              Ernie

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                Corey,

                We used Metrix for a while. It is great but we are now changing to Davinci which is a lot more intelligent because everything is automatically created straight from the estimate.

                We used to have the problem that estimates that were not actually capable of being printed (didn't fir etc) but we don't have the problem anymore - even when non-estimators do the quote.

                The trouble is that Davinci is a whole MIS with accounting and everything else so it's probably a lot more expensive than Metrix.

                Edited by: Brian B on Jun 23, 2008 10:02 PM

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                • #9
                  Re: Metrix by LithoTechnics

                  Question: when it comes to ganging multiple different sizes on the same sheet, how do you handle cutting & finishing? Do you spend more time there? How complex does it become? Are you factoring the additional costs?

                  I am curious to know.

                  Raymond Duval
                  Ultimate Technographics

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                  • #10
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                    Metrix will lay the jobs out (for the most part) so that its easy to cut.

                    Metrix will also give you a few different layouts to choose from. Thats where you need to have someone with some sense making the decision as to which layout to use. Some layouts will take less time to cut down, but may take a extra sheets.
                    Ernie

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                    • #11
                      Re: Metrix by LithoTechnics

                      Hi Ernie,

                      Have you actually purchased a complete version yet or are you still running the 30 days demo?

                      Ray

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                      • #12
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                        Costs are typically distributed back to the individual orders based on percentage of gang press sheet occupied. If the press sheet is cut apart, then the cutting, folding, or other finishing costs are distributed back to individual orders based on percentage of finishing gang sheet occupied. The cost of unused sheet waste or "white waste" is also distributed based on percentage.
                        Craig L Press, President
                        Profectus Printing Industry Business Consultants Since 1993

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                          Still running the demo, but hopefully will be purchasing the full version soon.
                          Ernie

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                          • #14
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                            Thanks Ernie.

                            Since you have posted to use the 30 days demos on June 9, and we are July 11, you're version is still working??

                            " Re: Metrix by LithoTechnics
                            Posted: Jun 9, 2008 9:58 AM in response to: Cory Smith Reply

                            we are currently using the trial, and so far its great. "

                            I just though if it was that great, someone would have purchase already, no?

                            Just curious.
                            Thanks
                            Ray
                            Ultimate Technographics

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                            • #15
                              Re: Metrix by LithoTechnics

                              No, we got an extension on the trial. Talked the GM into the purchase friday.


                              "I just though if it was that great, someone would have purchase already, no?"
                              I think Porche 911's are great, but i dont own one for obvious reasons.

                              If it were cheaper it would have been purchased without a doubt, but its hard to justify to management. Times are tight and the US economy is crap. But, you have to spend money to make money. And eventually i won them over by bringing to light several repeat jobs that could be ganged together to increase profits. Its a wonderful program, but its not cheap. BTW we primarily using this software to gang.

                              Your product on the other hand has a little more of a learning curve from what i could tell on the trial and is a good deal cheaper.

                              Edited by: Ernie on Jul 14, 2008 2:07 PM

                              Edited by: Ernie on Jul 14, 2008 2:09 PM
                              Ernie

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