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    Hello. Can you guys recommend any good MIS solution for small/medium sized printing house? (One that would have metric system).
    Working with PrintSmith currently, but it's just full of bad choices.

    What we would need from MIS:

    Job list, tracking. Estimating, for digital and large/wide format. Some sort of a paper calculator, to calculate total area size for printing (for large format printing.)

    Thanks for any suggestions!

  • #2
    I’ll start the vendor frenzy!

    http://accuramis.com


    Stephen Marsh
    Comments are personal and my views may not be shared by my employer or partners.

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    • #3
      Make sure it's open and it plays nice with other products. Make sure you can read and write from the database with other tools at no extra cost.
      One value of an MIS is as a tool to provide data to drive automation through the business.
      Senior Product Manager
      Enfocus

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      • #4
        reach out to Corryc@smartsoftusa.com to get a demo of PressWise

        https://www.presswise.com/

        I agree with ABC ( if that is his REAL name !) (wink )

        We have APIs that enable other storefronts systems like Presero, Marcom Central, four51 and many others to inject XML, cXML or JSON that represents orders into PressWise. We offer direct ODBC access. We have a tight integration with QUickBooks and pleanty to pre-programmed reports ( as well as tools to make custom Reports ).

        It is a big decision ! Be sure to look at several.



        Michael Jahn - Slightly used PDF Evangelist
        Simi Valley California

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        • #5
          Take a look at quotifly.com. It's a very innovative solution, and they have affordable packages for smaller providers.

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          • #6
            Don't get an EFI MIS. lol

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            • #7
              Hi RytisT - which country are you located in?... You can private message me if you are still searching. www.accuramis.com

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              • #8
                Check out Midnight MIS by Virtual Systems. Its user friendly, works on mobile devices, specifically designed to accomodate mailing along with printing, it's customizable, and it integrates easily with other systems. https://www.virtualsystems.com/

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                • #9
                  Printlogic - https://www.printlogicsystem.com/

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by OffsetStorefront View Post
                    Don't get an EFI MIS. lol
                    Why would you say that?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by inkmann View Post

                      Why would you say that?
                      EFI's products are actually very good, and integrate well with your Fiery workflow if you have one. The main issue with EFI is the upfront and on-going costs/fees they charge.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jwheeler View Post

                        EFI's products are actually very good, and integrate well with your Fiery workflow if you have one. The main issue with EFI is the upfront and on-going costs/fees they charge.
                        I wouldn't even say that's the biggest issue, the MIS itself feels old and left behind, yeah, they're upgrading it to HTML5, but it still feels like you need to do way more for MIS to just get a quote. Also, some decisions they've made are just stupid, like using two different measurement unit for large format and digital printing, yet when creating default templates, let's say bleed, you can enter only one number, so let's say if I enter 3 - as in 3 milimeters for digital press, it would be default 3 meters of bleed for large format... It's just one of the many examples.

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                        • #13
                          RytisT and jwheeler - I think you're both right. Rytis your statements about the EFI MIS shows you have experience of one of their products (they have several), so I guess it depends on which one ou mean - EFI Pace, Printsmith, Monarch or a legacy system like PSI or Logic?. In our experience, clients tell us their main problem is complexity/length of training/implementation time - which in turn leads to more cost inevitably. Many say that the systems are almost impossible to setup without expert advise/mentoring. If you are still searching for an MIS, take a look at Accura before you decide.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Trevor@AccuraMIS View Post
                            RytisT and jwheeler - I think you're both right. Rytis your statements about the EFI MIS shows you have experience of one of their products (they have several), so I guess it depends on which one ou mean - EFI Pace, Printsmith, Monarch or a legacy system like PSI or Logic?. In our experience, clients tell us their main problem is complexity/length of training/implementation time - which in turn leads to more cost inevitably. Many say that the systems are almost impossible to setup without expert advise/mentoring. If you are still searching for an MIS, take a look at Accura before you decide.
                            I do have experience, it wasn't that hard to set it up, it's just a headache to work with, It doesn't seem like they care about it. It's printsmith by the way.

                            As for AccuraMIS, I actually wrote you pm earlier. I did checked it, but I don't think it has any paper/imposition calculator, or at least not for large format, does it?

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                            • #15
                              Hi RytisT - I've just seen your PM, and replied. So Printsmith is EFI's "entry-level" designed originally for storefront/franchise operations as it has modules like Point-of-sale (till/cash register).

                              I would expect it to be easy to setup, I was referring to the other MIS suites further up the range in terms of complexity and ongoing costs. Printsmith Classic was a desktop application, which was re-written as Printsmith Vision - their "browser" based system. Unfortunately it was written in Flash/ActionScript - which have since been deprecated by Adobe due to security flaws.

                              You are correct EFI have been "promising" to re-write Printsmith Vision in HTML5 for some years now... whether that will ever happen you'd have to ask them. MY gut feeling is they would invest development resource where the money is. (Pace and Monarch)

                              Without getting too technical there are compromises with most HTML-based programs. Going from Printsmith Vision (Flash UI) to HTML5, you'd notice this... and development cycles can be very long for web coding. For example you don't always get the same rich UI experience as with a desktop solution in some ways (e.g. right-click menus, direct interaction with client device/hardware, multiple windows open simultaneously) - this is because they have to be coded for the lowest common denominator web browser - and compatibility issues between browsers also exist. The software cannot assume the user has xyz browser plug-in, it's running on a web server, not the client PC.

                              Clearly you will have your own reasons for wishing to change. It could be due to lack of development, poor support, program stability, high ongoing costs, poor vendor relationship, missing modules/features or lack of integration (e.g. with CRM or Web2Print), or the cost of doing any of this is simply prohibitive? - or any combination. We would recommend you fully explore in any replacement system, the supplier, references, financial checks, development roadmap, upgrade/support policy & ongoing costs. Do not buy something just because it's cheap - and sacrifice what you may need in the future. Changing MIS is costly and painful, so making the right decision is important.

                              Good luck with your search.
                              Last edited by Trevor@AccuraMIS; 04-09-2019, 04:24 AM.

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