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  1. Shredder

    Fiery vs KMBS print controller

    If you want to help me find equipment used/discount/servicing I would be interested in consulting services. I think this is going to be the last machine I buy for a long time. We don't have wavvy pages in my books. There is a tiny bit of unevenness with cover and paper but I bought a 1970s...
  2. Shredder

    Pay Per Click vs Pay Per Visit

    Tried that years ago. We needed printing in my office for packaging materials/catalogs/etc. Used these machines can go very cheap. Plus running I run a not for profit educational institute on the side that needs lots of printed materials. But my needs are not like printers who print 100k/mo...
  3. Shredder

    Pay Per Click vs Pay Per Visit

    We don't have a press operator. We just print and pickup books. Not being in the printing industry we didn't want a full time employee running print jobs. Ive been considering getting into print business and hiring a full time operator but have no idea how to sell print jobs.
  4. Shredder

    Pay Per Click vs Pay Per Visit

    6"x9" 20lb (24lb makes the books to thick)
  5. Shredder

    Pay Per Click vs Pay Per Visit

    It varies for us but from my experience minoltas tend to be decent. My Okidatas eat toner like a fat boy on a diet. We usually get decent amount of prints from each toner on the minolta.
  6. Shredder

    Pay Per Click vs Pay Per Visit

    I think it is hit and miss. I remember older machines giving me a super hard time. Over the years some things have been improved (paper feeding, paper finishers). The print engine itself hasn't changed much. My older C6000 likes to heat up inside pretty good which I think would make things...
  7. Shredder

    Pay Per Click vs Pay Per Visit

    That's my expectation that these machines are not that expensive to run without a service contract. It's nice piece of mind but for 7 million sheets we are talking about $100-200K worth of PPC (depending on color/bw count). $1500/yr labor sounds reasonable. I called Discount Copier and was...
  8. Shredder

    Fiery vs KMBS print controller

    Thanks for posting. I do think Konica has come a long way from emperon controllers. I don't have need for impose but would have loved a cheap embedded print controller. Im leaning to Fiery only because at resell time it will go for more even though for my purposes the KM controller would be a...
  9. Shredder

    Fiery vs KMBS print controller

    Too bad you aren't selling machines anymore I'd buy the OT-510 from you. It looks pretty rare as I haven't found much info online about it. I have been using that simulator but I don't know why I dont trust it. Also, do you recommend HM-103 for the RU-518? Does it really make a big...
  10. Shredder

    Fiery vs KMBS print controller

    AWESOME!!! 450 GSM? Are you serious? I would love to run super super thick stock like that. I kept eyeballing the C12000 dreaming about 450gsm. I've been thinking about the OT-510 in order to get straight paper path if I don't go with a PPC contract. Can an OT-510 and a PB-503 work in 1...
  11. Shredder

    Pay Per Click vs Pay Per Visit

    There was a point I wanted 2 presses one color and one bw. Mostly due to PPC costs. I am a self published author and want to hand out my books free to people interested in them. My volumes can increase really high due to that (one of my key books is 450 pages 6x9). 100k prints will only...
  12. Shredder

    Pay Per Click vs Pay Per Visit

    I priced out the components from this website: discount copier center I haven't fully made up my mind and waiting on PPC quotes from local suppliers. I do want to hear other opposing opinions to stop me from making a huge mistake. I have had PPC contracts for 20 years on bizhub style...
  13. Shredder

    Pay Per Click vs Pay Per Visit

    Great discussion points. Consumables run less than $2000/annually for me and I'm including a new set of drums/developers/fusers/toners/coronas/etc. I have seen them take a dump once or twice every few years. My contract I currently spend $15-20k annually (projected to double with 400gsm...
  14. Shredder

    Fiery vs KMBS print controller

    We would see a difference on the C6000. For book covers we want super high resolution to help make the cover more attractive.
  15. Shredder

    Fiery vs KMBS print controller

    How high can you stack 13x19 sheets on RU-518? It doesn't look very stout for 100+ 400 gsm sheets. On our C6000 I usually the output tray on top of PB-503 but it looks like it goes through the rollers and not sure how 400gsm will fare in PB-503. FYI when I looked up RU-518 it shows 350gsm.
  16. Shredder

    Fiery vs KMBS print controller

    Nice to know its working so well for you. I am getting quotes on PPC contracts from local service companies. Does it bother you to pay for piece of mind? I imagine there wont be any major issues until passed 500k copies. The reason I ask is because if money could be saved I can buy another...
  17. Shredder

    Fiery vs KMBS print controller

    I always appreciate and respect your opinion from your experience. Yes I had this question 6 months ago and during covid this project was put on backlog. I have been conflicted about this and didn't have time to go to local KMBS dealer to see demonstration. What is throwing me off more is how...
  18. Shredder

    Fiery vs KMBS print controller

    Yeah those embedded fierys really sucked. I do remember atleast one of them being a celeron. Fiery has done an excellent job of making people think they make good products. My experience with them is a constant state of beta and never working the way its supposed to.
  19. Shredder

    Pay Per Click vs Pay Per Visit

    I can easily believe that for Xerox. Konica Minolta is cheaper to service and most of the kinks have worked out (fiery not included nor oddball finishers). Don't know xerox's full history but whenever I see their PPC prices they have a totally different attitude. In the past because of the...
  20. Shredder

    Fiery vs KMBS print controller

    It seems as if the $50k Fiery IC-315 is behind the $8k KMBS controller with 3.0 APPE: Fiery print server IC-315(optional) High-performance printing platform Standard APPE 3.0 APPE 3.0 (Adobe PDF Print Engine 3.0), which supports PDF transparency, is provided as a standard feature.

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