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    Measured my first output profile - but is it correct?

    Thanks guys. I will try to measure the profile again. Unfortunately I am a little busy these days to play with the printer, but once I get to it, I will let you know my results.
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    Measured my first output profile - but is it correct?

    arossetti: 1) To be honest, I don't really know what that means... 2) it indeed looks strange, but that is the widely used source profile, nothing that I would (or could) measure/influence I think? Basically it's like Fogra. 3) ICC attached. I would also attach the .it8 file, but I'm not sure I...
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    Measured my first output profile - but is it correct?

    Hi all, so I have tried to measure my first output profile for our Xerox Versant 180 printer (with EFI Fiery, Color Profiler Suite 4.5 and ES-2000 and Command Workstation 6). I am not 100% sure that the result I achieved is actually correct or the best possible. Let me explain my procedure: 1)...
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    Correct way to perform calibrations? (Xerox V180 + EFI Fiery + CWS)

    Actually - it was originally in Photographic/Perceptual, but I changed it to Relative colorimetric after seeing these explanations. My thought was, that if I have 2 colors - one is within the destination gamut and the other is outside, I will want only the one color that is outside the gamut, to...
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    Correct way to perform calibrations? (Xerox V180 + EFI Fiery + CWS)

    Wow, thanks for your post. So much information. Will indeed have to re-read it a few times! :) My boss is considering gettings ES-2000 with CPS, so that would move us a bit further. Anyway, the main problem i mentioned in post #23 (the strange rendition of details, green artefacts etc.) has...
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    Correct way to perform calibrations? (Xerox V180 + EFI Fiery + CWS)

    Hmmm, we have not touched Density Uniformity Adjustment at all. I remember being warned to touch it only when it is really needed (ie. we have a page full of orange business cards and the orange is different tint on each edge of the paper), because there is not really a way to reset it to...
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    Correct way to perform calibrations? (Xerox V180 + EFI Fiery + CWS)

    UPDATE: We've been in contact with Xerox guys via telephone and Teamviwer, they checked over how we perform our calibrations (basically we are doing it the right way) and did one sample calibration over Teamviwer. The test print (ALTONA test PDF) did initially look OK. We saved that profile and...
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    Correct way to perform calibrations? (Xerox V180 + EFI Fiery + CWS)

    Small progress update... had phoned/teamviewed with two xerox people and they more or less confirmed that the calibration process that I do is indeed correct. They mentioned that if we had Color Profiler Suite, it would all be much easier for us, but unfortunately - that is not the option. The...
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    Correct way to perform calibrations? (Xerox V180 + EFI Fiery + CWS)

    So you are using only ONE output profile and only do calibrations for that?
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    Correct way to perform calibrations? (Xerox V180 + EFI Fiery + CWS)

    OK, sounds reasonable. So you think that in my situation, it would be better to stick to the default output profiles, default calibration sets (made for Enhanced text) and print all the jobs with Enhanced text instead? Plus do regular calibrations for the default calibration sets (so with...
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    Correct way to perform calibrations? (Xerox V180 + EFI Fiery + CWS)

    Yeah, we had a training and also was on a "workshop"...which is what leads me to believe that I am doing it correctly! :) They said ES-1000 would be OK for calibrations (meaning linearizations) but obviously not for output profile creations (which didn't seem like a big problem - as the default...
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    Correct way to perform calibrations? (Xerox V180 + EFI Fiery + CWS)

    Well that leaves us with only solution (if we rule out getting ES-2000 + Fiery Color Profiler Suite): do not touch the default profiles and do not perform ANY calibrations (since calibration only makes the results worse)...
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    Correct way to perform calibrations? (Xerox V180 + EFI Fiery + CWS)

    Thanks, I really appreciate the time you put into me. The process I described in my first post, is of course when doing only the first calibration - or to be more exact - creating a new calibration settings. Which I need to do (if I'm not mistaken) since I want to use 200 cluster dot on all of...
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    Correct way to perform calibrations? (Xerox V180 + EFI Fiery + CWS)

    Well I am doing what we've been taught to do. And also the same process is described in the "How to" PDF which I mentioned earlier, here is the link...
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    Correct way to perform calibrations? (Xerox V180 + EFI Fiery + CWS)

    Nah, only ES-1000 or ColorCal to choose from. I just did the calibrations again and am attaching the measurements images - if that is any help for someone? I don't really know how to read into them, but I guess that if the thin line (measured) is BELOW the target line - that is actually a...
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    Correct way to perform calibrations? (Xerox V180 + EFI Fiery + CWS)

    Oh so you meant I should create my own output profile by measuring those hundreds/thosuands of small patches? Well, I can't do that, because I have no software that would allow me to create my own output profiles. My boss didn't want to spend more money on the ES-2000 + Color Profiler Suite, as...
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    Correct way to perform calibrations? (Xerox V180 + EFI Fiery + CWS)

    Hi, we recently got our V180 and since I did calibrations for the papers that we use, it seems that the printer has smaller dynamic range (whites and blacks get clipped very soon). Could you please take a look at my procedure and confirm if I'm doing it right? And if so, what is the cause of...
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    Versant 180 Installed

    I'm not sure what you mean with "... printable area which is physically offset" (could be because I'm not native english speaker). You say, you don't understand how I could have a problem with this. Well let me give you an real life example that happends on daily bases: A customer brings a...
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    Versant 180 Installed

    Yes, every other printer I ever worked with had this feature. We actually had a Xerox technician look into this and there is a workaround by editing the PLD (not sure if I remember the name right) files of the printer driver, where you have these margins defined. For VP 180 it is actually...

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