Konica Minolta Bizhub C6000 VS Bizhub C6501

[peterpall]

Hi!

I'm looking to replace my Canon 9060 pro and got an offer on two Konica Minolta:

Bizhub C6000
Year: 2012-07
B/W: 160 000 clicks
Color: 650 000 clicks
Internal RIP (Fiery)

Bizhub C6501
Year: 2011-09
B/W: 750.000 clicks
Color: 2 100 000 clicks
External RIP with screen/consol (Fiery)

Both have the same price, $11k. What do you guys think? Should I go with the C6501 because of the external RIP?

 

[Kunnajar]

Is there a specific reason to go with the external RIP?
BTW if the external RIP is running on Windows XP i would stay away from it Ä(security reasons). Internal Fiery is running on unix.

 

[hannes S]

Is there a specific reason to go with the external RIP?
BTW if the external RIP is running on Windows XP i would stay away from it Ä(security reasons). Internal Fiery is running on unix.

The internal Fiery runs on Windows XP with version 1.0.
With 1.1 only the OS changed into Windows 7

 

[Digital Press Guy]

C6501 with a total of 2,850K clicks vs. C6000 with 810K clicks. I'd lean toward the lighter usage and I'd certainly want to see current output.

The C6000 was an improvement in image quality over the C6501 with or without an external RIP. Be sure to consider your maintenance pricing before making a decision.

 

[gig0]

The C6000 was an improvement in image quality over the C6501 with or without an external RIP.

^^^^This^^^^

Unless that Fiery RIP has an image/text enhancement function (like the Creo IC-304), you're in for a world of hurt on that 6501 when it comes to transparencies.

 

[ChrisD]

Bizhub C6000 v C6501

Bizhub C6000 v C6501

I have both a KM6501 (5 years old)
External Rip, 200 page booklet finisher/guillotine etc.
Large capacity feed trays

And a C6000L (2 years old)
Embedded RIP
Small 20 sheet booklet finisher,
no high capacity feed trays, just a normal bypass tray.

The C6501 works away every day, needs a bit of extra care with it's age etc.,
it has no problems with 350gsm, 300gsm, 250gsm, 200gsm, 100gsm coated gloss, silk & 80gsm copier paper.
It has never been any good with 170gsm & 130gsm (wavy sheets & jams).

The C6000L seems very light weight, is terrible on silk or gloss, with big black marks appearing,
no problems on anything else, the engineer can't get the machine to feed silk or gloss properly from a standard tray or bypass.
Duplex registration is awful, but the print quality on something that will feed (200gsm HP colour) is great.

We use the C6000L for A4, 100gsm - 200gsm jobs on good quality copier paper,
can't fault the machine for this type of work, (thesis & student projects, general copyshop stuff)
It has good days when 170gsm coated gloss runs, but rare enough.
we don't depend on it to do anything more.

The C6501 with all the add-ons has been a fantastic workhorse that can print on most media,
just doesn't like doing lightweight flyers, we can sort of live with that.
We print mostly SRA3 from the high capacity trays.

I think the C6501 is more versatile and in our experience a better buy than the C6000L.

I hope that helps.

Chris