Yes Xerox is proud of their decurler and go on and on about it. The reason for this is that the DC5065, DC252, DC260 was so shocking with its curl, that they had to nut something out to fix it. With the Bizhub C6500, curl isn't a problem on it either way. If you want colour consistancy, the Bizhub will walk all over the DC700. Look at the Delta E ratings. If you want to print great solids, the Bizhub wins. If you want to print good black solids on 300gsm board, the Bizhub will do it, where the toner will scratch off on the DC700. Buying the DC700 is the wrong move, but there are still loyal X customers out there.
1. “The 6501 has new writing lens material that has been changed to lower the moisture absorption level, which the company says counters the effects of humidity on the output, and a new smooth drum surface designed to eliminate bonding of “unwanted material” such as dust or toner particles to help it stay cleaner and in turn extend the life of the machine.” - Sounds like they had an issue with dust and drum life….
2. Improved toner yield up to 8.7% better - Not sure how this helps image quality…
3. New smaller booklet maker (20 sheets) - I guess folks thought the size of the 200 page booklet maker was too big – you have a 25 sheet booklet maker…
4. New perfect binder (up to 300 sheets) - Depending on the size of the books, choosing to perfect bind inline will have a major impact on productivity. A “near line” system would be faster.
By the way, what is a 5065? I think that was a Xerox machine form the 80's.
Has anyone not named Konica Minolta seen toner scratch off a Xerox anything?
Here is two great questions for anyone evaluting machines; 1. When I run a job 20% color and 80% B&W, will I get charged for entire job in color or just what I used?
2. Will my machine stop and AUTO CALIBRATE like all the other BIZ Hubs every few minutes or so?
Please reference any delta ratings so people can see what you are talking about and who did the testing.
Its the Delta E ratings/readings that are interesting. If you have a look at comparisons between the DC700 and Bizhub C6500, Delta E is massively better on the Bizhub. Basically, this is its ability to hold colour over a run i.e colour consistancy.......something X haven't mastered yet hahaWRONG - The write units had a problem on yellow line screen that caused the edges of print to fade. This was resolved with a new type of linescreen ina firmware upgrade. This new write unit resolves the problem completely. The DC5000 has the same problem but on all colours and is unresolvable.
You can change toner on the fly but most customers requested improved yields.
All the accessories have been enhanced and wont work on 6500. New GBC punch also. Still the best online finishing options in the industry.
The Bizhubs have finishing that Xerox can only dream about.
The engine produces books at rated speed, you can't make the engine run any faster with accessories.
With the finishing accessories, they actually speed up to 105 pages per minute. This is done in the "relay unit" as the media leaves the engine.
I think this is a AP machine.
Yes the 5065 is an AP machine. It has also had different DFE's on it, and been called the DCC5540, 6550, 7550, DC250, 252, 260 and so on, and so on. You will also find the engine in the DC5000 and now in the DC700. Classic Xerox stuff, build one engine, and rename the hell out of it over the next 5 years or so.
Colour is colour. The c500 was extremely bad at auto calibrating. The c500 was extremely bad at everything. This problem does not exist in the c6500.
What kind of readings so you want?
to smatros: i'm curious which channel you acquired your xerox 700 from?
the print quality on the 700 is outstanding. it is value priced machine for the right applications and volumes
I am sorry you don't live in America where all your problems could be fixed with a simple replacement machine. This is not normal!
I have tested on every paper (non-Xerox) and the results are very good. It has some issues on coated stocks (i.e. 150gr. Velvet paper, 3pl. coated) due to improper fuser.
I'm using the "High Latch" fuser (the standard one, comes with the machine) which is more appropriate on light-to-mid weight papers. You may also use the "Low Latch" fuser for some paper types.
Something to try: Reduce the "Adjust Image Transfer" option to 50%. (from 100% or 150%) and replace the drums. The main problem occurs because if you calibrating the machine with the "off-the-glass" procedure (using Creo) it builds calibration tables with VERY HIGH DENSITY values. Try to decrease those values indirect: Build a "Gradation Table" and adjust the 100% value to 95 - 97% for every color.
It has no registration issues. I have save all the alignment settings for every paper type and every tray. I have different alignment settings for trays 1-2-3 and different for Oversized 6 & 7. You have to do the job twice.
Most Important: When building alignment settings do not use a predefined custom paper when loading the paper. Build and use only alignment settings for every tray group (1-2-3) and choose the paper as "Uncoated" ot "Coated" and the weight separately from custom paper type.
Creo is very expensive for what it offers. It has lots of bugs and does not support color calibration editing in density level, if have not buying the "Graphic Arts Premium Package" or something like. Result: You need to spend more than 15.000 Euros i spend in order to "play" with it as a proffesional. It's Shad!!!
Good thing: An SP1 is now available and it seems to work better. Do all the windows downloads (Windows SP3, and others) and then install the service pack.
Yes Xerox is proud of their decurler and go on and on about it. The reason for this is that the DC5065, DC252, DC260 was so shocking with its curl, that they had to nut something out to fix it.
Sorry, but a newbie to these forums, but I came across this whilst googling. What was the curling solution they "nutted out" (I am running a DC250 and some card stocks are curling a heck of a lot more than others....)
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