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Ooops. Zombie thread. Lol. My bad.

Here’s the manual

works fine if you don't mind paying for it...a little clunky...some decent features.

I've used Xitron for ages and never had an issue with anything. I started using them in the mid 90's. It will just work.

yeah...read my response above...y'all missed that...std license w start up was about 18K...still a lot of scratch.

Same here. I've used them since the mid 90's in different shops.

That's what I thought.

I'm in the NY Metro Area.

What position did you take there, if you don't mind me asking.

They want to eventually automate trucking too. We'll always need containers and labels and boxes to some degree. That's why I got into folding carton while the gettin' was good 25 years ago. We'll need boxes for as long as I'm around.

I started Scitex CIPC>Scitex Imager>Scitex Prismax>Scitex PS/2>started integrating Macs about the Quadra 800 period...the rest is history. I've been in management most of my "career" jumping in and out of operator positons here and there for strategic reasons. I've done well for my position, but...

I came up in the heyday of digital prepress pre Macintosh, so I've seen it all and it has become unskilled labor. I'm only 56 and not near retirement, so it looks pretty bleak for me. Get out while you can!

I personally can't wait! 35 years is too long in this pit of a business.

Nah...I'll sell them with my Cabbage Patch dolls one day, lol.

I know...I was teasing.

"in some cases prepress operator may not be necessary"...that's not a very friendly statement in these parts.

I have two unopened I just found. Sometimes folks have that old software they don't want to let go of and run older Macs. It's probably a difficult item to find if anyone in the universe actually needs it. lol. They are version 10.6.3 I also have the 10.6.7 combo update disks.

Is there anyone left in this business? This place is a ghost town.

Std license with startup and maintenance will run closer to 18K ,all said and done. Just checked my invoice. Got a few extras with mine, so you're right, 30K was bloated.

one seat of PackZ will run you 30K plus retraining. A simple software upgrade seems a lot more sensible.