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The test file that I posted shows various different problems that DO occur in real life everyday, but maybe not all at once. I thought this was the Color Management section of the forum? And printers do need to up their color management game. So why not correct the wrongs? I know what...

No one said it was as easy as converting RGB, but we are doing it all day and it works great. I think It's better to solve the problem instead of accept it as a fact.

Stephen, I disagree. CMYK and RGB numbers Is not a color, the numbers always depends on the output (display, printer or press) thats why we need icc-profiles. Lets say a client have a orange logo that is 40m and 100y the output can differ alot if you don't color manage. IMHO thats what icc...

I think Adobe should provide this kind of color management features as a native function. It would be great to have a setting to not convert CMYK line art. But I don't understand why you doesn't want to convert any CMYK-photos? Best regards,

I agree with you both about the above. Of course you shoud have a well documented color management policy both for customers and staff, and we do. I know about all the issues with converting CMYK to CMYK (we use device links for this with inkreduction/gcr, in a PDF/X-4 workflow). But thats not...

My point is: If a photo or graphic element has an assiged profile (in the original file) you should color manage that object correct no mather what the designers colors settings are. Since most designers does not care or use default settings in InDesign.

So if the customer have turned off color management in InDesign and no profiles are assigned to the document or the images you would do what? There have to be some kind of color management since you need to convert from RGB to CMYK. I guess you would pick up the phone and call the designer and...

I would not contact the author of the document just because the document has a wrong document CMYK-profile or placed content aren´t assigned with it's own ICC, since I know that the authors answer would result in: me doing the above actions. And I would have to call almost every time someone...

Thanks for all you files! Here is the result (Just one of the files was "correctly" color managed, by my opinion). Here is a video of how I work, to get the best result when handling a InDesign document from a customer or colleague. This is how I set up the color settings in Adobe CC. In...

6 files right now. Please contribute with your PDF. Many files = better data for a conclusion and discussion. Best regards.

Hi guys and girls, This is just an experiment to see how people handles Indesign-files and make PDF:s for print. If you got a spare minute, please download this test file and follow this instructions: 1. Make a print ready PDF-file (Fogra39 / ISOCoated_V2) 2. Post a link below or mail it to...

Thanks for clarify this. Did not know that the Pantone Lab-values are M2-values. Good to know for the future. Best regards /

Thanks for doing this Stephen! Obviously you got a perfect match. What software are you using to do spot measuring with the i1 Pro 2?

Thanks Stephen, since Kodak and CGS have the same values I trust in the values now. The difference is probably related to the printed swatch book, backing and measure instrument (or all three). Please measure your printet swatch when you have a spared minute. Best regards,

Hi, Im often getting a request to convert Pantone-colors to RGB, Lab or CMYK. I usually do the following (In this case I want to convert Pantone+ 7433 Solid Coated to Adobe RGB): • New blank Lab document i Photoshop • Choose the right Pantone from the library • Fill the document with the...

If you know what you are doing that could of course be a good solution. I would say most people don't. At our printshop we are getting too many untagged or faulty converted PDF's that could result in bad looking print. So I think it's much better to teach the client's how to set up correct...

Im guessing that you are exporting to PDF/x4 in that case? You wouldn't want to loose any embedded ICC-profiles. We use both PDF/X4 and PDF/X1a depending on the output device/RIP. But in both cases it's really important NOT to turn Color Manangement off in Indesign.

Because if you let InDesign handles color it will save you a lot of time. You wouldn't have to manually convert all your images in Photoshop. If using the colormanagenet in InDesign it would result in a faster, better and more dynamic workflow. Example one: Lets say that you have designed a...

InDesign does what it's told to do. If you like to have a good and secure workflow you should get to know how Indesign handles color. First of all, do not turn the color management off, that won't make anything better. Instead learn how Indesign handles color and how to set up your color...