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    buying a new low-to-mid production b/w printers

    The main problem in europe is that ricoh is also printing directly for customer and get caught more than once stealing customer from his customer. You can understand that most printing companies try to avoid ricoh as much as possible till this happened.
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    buying a new low-to-mid production b/w printers

    @ Craig : Thanks for your answer. The service seems good in Belgium but I will see once they are in action if they are as good as they seems. You always have better technicians than other. And of course, the best one are not always the best one for their boss(as they tend to replace part of the...
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    buying a new low-to-mid production b/w printers

    They were cristal clear when they talk about special paper. Best to avoid it as the result is poor(at best). Better to use an OCE for that kind of job!(but they have also other problem. If you have to do some offline work on the printed paper, as an example) No perfect printing device exist, but...
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    buying a new low-to-mid production b/w printers

    The 4000 serie from xerox got some serious problems, it seems. And they came from conception so no solution can be found. Some technicians are saying that the recent version of the nuvera have also a lot of problems. I wonder if one of the problem is not coming from the toner(who is made in...
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    Replacing iGen3's HELP iGen4, NexPress, Bizhub or Imagepress

    HP is not very friendly in Belgium also. You have to be very very motivated to make business with them! Anyway, I don't have the volume(by far) and given the economical environment it would be a miracle to see an improvement. OCE made an incredible low offer for a canon color material but the...
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    Replacing iGen3's HELP iGen4, NexPress, Bizhub or Imagepress

    For the moment, xerox is out of the equation. Because I am afraid of a serious possible problem. I have to buy the material via a reseller. And the sales are not good at all. If this reseller can't pay the bills to xerox, no service will be available. And I am not talking about the possible...
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    Replacing iGen3's HELP iGen4, NexPress, Bizhub or Imagepress

    I don't have much problem about sheets bouncing +- 1mm. It's already the case with my CPS900 (it's even worse, it can even go up to 2,5mm sometimes. But 1mm is the norm. And I am not talking about paralelism). But I like the CPS900. My choice is : Reconduct the CPS900 for 3 years (it's dirty...
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    Replacing iGen3's HELP iGen4, NexPress, Bizhub or Imagepress

    And expensive is not always good! (the 700i from xerox is very expensive for a quality who is soso(not so good)) What I wanted to say is : the C7000/8000 are not expensive for what they are. (if it was possible, I would prefer by far to buy a nexpress or an indigo but I don't have the volume(and...
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    Replacing iGen3's HELP iGen4, NexPress, Bizhub or Imagepress

    After this discussion on the c8000, I have been on a demo today and it's very tempting to buy one (a C7000, I don't have enough work to need higher. And given the price, it's always possible to buy a second one) I never realised how cheap it was! (but it's not the only argument, by far) Decision...
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    Replacing iGen3's HELP iGen4, NexPress, Bizhub or Imagepress

    Quick reply, indeed! And the result doesn't look bad. Interesting.
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    Replacing iGen3's HELP iGen4, NexPress, Bizhub or Imagepress

    Better to take the results in the showrooms with a pinch of salt. They prepare the machine as a F1, once the machine is in production I highly doubt they will agree to replace everything as often as they do in the showroom! If the machine is not designed for production, chances are high it will...
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    B&W Printers

    I must say that the machine service for the 6150 wasn't at the top. The technicians were really skilled but OCE didn't have many system in the area and the technician always got a long way to come (last time, he came form luxemburg. That's a 2H/3H way). More than often, the service was Day +1...
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    buying a new low-to-mid production b/w printers

    Talking about registration, it's better to use a VP 6000(why not trying to get a second hand, it's much cheaper). Registration is perfect with the VP6000(never seen better). But it's true that the price have gone up a lot the last few years? When we buy it, a 6150 was available and it was much...
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    B&W Printers

    I have runned a 6150(upgraded to 6170 for free)for more than 5 years and it is an increadibly reliable machine. We didn't see the technicians often.(once every few months by average) I have runned many different kind of paper on it and didn't get much problems. Still, it's better to avoid coated...
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    B&W Printers

    For printing 1,5 million of A4, if they are double sided, the best is a varioprint 6000. I have done it a few time with peak print up to 400K A4(one side) in one day. The main problem is the machine is only interesting if you are printing the two side of the sheets! 2 X4110 can do it also but...
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    Introduce yourself!

    Hi everyone, I am MARS from belgium. I run a small printing company with my father. We are mainly working on digital printing system but we still have some offset press (1 and 2 colors. We got a 4 colors press in the past but decided to stop as the market is satured). We focus on black &white...
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    Replacing iGen3's HELP iGen4, NexPress, Bizhub or Imagepress

    For what I know, I would avoid the Canon and the KM if you are used to the quality of the Igen(even if this one is not perfect, but does a such machine exist?). The nexpress is a really good printing system. Of course, it's much cheaper to use smaller system but you are not going to get the...

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