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I spoke with the other printer we use who came into the office for a color sign off with another employee yesterday. He basically confirmed what you all are saying, that is it on the printer to match the proof and he went so far as to say it has nothing to do with my system, my monitor, the...

Thanks everyone for your comments....I will keep an eye out for more so please, if anyone has anything further. But this gives me a good start on what to ask and how....we have another printer (very small and local) that does piece jobs for us and I did not even think of having a chat with him...

it is printed every other month.....so 4 months of an escalation of issues. Thanks for those comments....at least I have some terminology to use in asking questions.

When you say an "Advisor" do you mean someone independent from the printer....we have a rep but he works for the print company so to me, that is high on the biased side.

Thanks for the questions 1. we switched due to the other printer being in Canada, prints costs were much higher and shipping costs super high so it was mostly a cost and carbon footprint issue. We are a not for profit. (I personally did not want to change printers and we had such great customer...

Is there a book or online resource anyone can point me to so I can read up and be more informed on the print process?

and to add insult to injury they had run over 90 THOUSAND copies of the last issue before even having the editor come in for the press check....that they fully intended and did send out to customers....many were off register on the entire issue with horrible color shift to cyan....

That was my comment to the printer when I saw the printed piece before the editor made any corrections on press. That it looked JUST like SWOP2006 profile as viewed on my monitor and then the editor has to back track from that to try to recover details and hi lights lost in that profile and that...

mass...thanks for the thoughts. Can you give a percentage of error in viewing the proof in non 5k conditions? If I have a good argument that very little of this problem is on our end to take to the boss (or even that there is something on our end to fix, like getting a color correct viewing...

Yes, that is the current process exactly.....

So does anyone disagree with what dabob said ". . . if the printer does a hard proof and can't match it . . . the issue is on him . . . ."

They have not suggested it but it would not be in our best interest due to our subject matter.....many many many species of animals which the printer would have no idea what color they should be especially if it is a specific animal. For example how would they know what shade of blue, our...

and I forgot one other factor, we are NOT viewing the proofs in a color booth or 5000k lighting conditions. We used to be with another printer and they had our whole system set up with custom profiles that matched theirs, the exact monitor that they used in the press room, 5k light station, and...

Absolutely RGB had a wider color gamut but what I am saying is visually, on my monitor, there is not much of a change...not enough that I would change my process.

The printer is printing the hard proofs and sending them to us, I make changes on my system, send the hard proofs back to the printer.....for 2 rounds. Then on press we are not getting the results we saw in the proofs. One of my issues of course is that the proofs are not printed on the same...

HI All, New here...have some issues and was hoping I could gain some insight into the problems that I have with either my set up or my printer. This is a magazine that is being printer and the process is that I correct RGB photographic images on an EIZO monitor calibrated to adobe 1998. The...