WTB: Service Manual for a Pro-Cut 265

[somoflange]

I've got an old pro-cut 265 MPS that's been working perfectly until a week ago. Now, it won't initialize at all. the Hydraulic pump runs when plugged in, regardless of e-stop, interlock or key positions. Does anyone have a service manual for one of these?

 

[Pennypicher]

there was never a service or part book for the Pro Cut cutters. When you say intialize you saying the back gage isnt moving? They were made by Microcut for Procut and from what I understand are not supported anymore because of the age. Explain more on the issue Ill try.

 

[somoflange]

Thanks! Right now, when the unit is plugged in, the hydraulic pump runs nonstop, regardless of e-stop or key switch position, and it seems like there is no low voltage activity. the Logic controller has no lights on, and the input voltage to it is nearly zero. It's acting like the interlock is tripped, with the exception of the pump operating. the Microcut does not power up either. The contactor for the pump doesn't feel sticky. It seems almost like there is a relay somewhere that's acting up, but all the small relays I checked looked OK upon visual inspection.

 

[Pennypicher]

The interlock cut your 24 volts. But 24 volts is what pulls your start contactor in too. If you power on you also have to ?? Turn the key switch or press the cut buttons to START the cutter/pump? Power on should also let the computer system start up without the pump running yet. UNPLUG the machine and check the 5/6 fuses in the panel. UNPLUG because some are live if just power to the machine 220 volts will kill you!!! There is a fuse # 4/5 towards the right that is for24 volts i think

 

[Tonez]

there was never a service or part book for the Pro Cut cutters. When you say intialize you saying the back gage isnt moving? They were made by Microcut for Procut and from what I understand are not supported anymore because of the age. Explain more on the issue Ill try.

there certainly are service books for the pro Cut cutters i have one for my MPS 320 our service guy gave me a copy a few years back.

 

[Pennypicher]

there certainly are service books for the pro Cut cutters i have one for my MPS 320 our service guy gave me a copy a few years back.

Cutters made by Swaneck Graphics/Procut in Ohio?? Or the Challenge Procut as some were labeled.

 

[Tonez]

Cutters made by Swaneck Graphics/Procut in Ohio?? Or the Challenge Procut as some were labeled.

the one i have is basically a rebranded challenge.
I have gotten replacement parts by looking up the challenge 305 xg.

picture is of the service manual cover and it has Procut's name and address on it.

 

[somoflange]

Interesting on the manual... mine is probably a generation older. I suspect the transformer which looks like an off-the-shelf unit, an Impervitran B100MBT173XK. I'm noticing a little "magic smoke" scent from it and see a bit of paint deformation. Photo of suspected toast attached.

 

[Tonez]

Interesting on the manual... mine is probably a generation older. I suspect the transformer which looks like an off-the-shelf unit, an Impervitran B100MBT173XK. I'm noticing a little "magic smoke" scent from it and see a bit of paint deformation. Photo of suspected toast attached.

ya that definitely looks like it got too hot if you can get your hands on one i would swap it out.

 

[tommycoolman]

 

[Pennypicher]

Thats the series when Procut had Challenge make cutter for them. And its the only service/parts book that was made for the cutters. There is a limited schematic book for cutters floating out there. However if you dont have that series cutter the books are not much help.
There was a manual with the cutters that were sold but had limited info for the operators.
I would look at another transformer. That breaks down your high voltage to the 24 volts needed for the main contactor pull in. Check your cut line lights for any short. This will blow that transformer. 24 volt bulbs only.