2nd house paper. is it worth it?

[jmurf133]

to me someone who comes from the pressroom. I say no. but from the person who buys it. they say yes. same old question different year. just wanted to get some different opinions.

 

[manofprint]

You never know what your going to get.
I feel it should be based on the job itself.
What type of coverage and piece mailer vs presentation piece and
of course what finishing processes foil, scoring, folding.

Paper represents approximately 1/2 the cost of a job.

My .02

 

[turbotom1052]

its hard to resist the savings of buiyng job lot paper. I think the deciding factor needs to come only when you know your customers expectations. A seasoned print buyer is likely to be more understanding of a sub par job if some of the savings in paper is passed on to him/her!!!

 

[ymckman]

My last employer used 2nd house paper religiously. There's reasons its at a 2nd house. We constantly pulled jobs due to defects, damaged stock, improper labeled stock (#80 txt when the label says #60 txt) etc. Job quality started going downhill along with their client base. What use to be a quality conscious printer turned into a "just get it out the door" printer. Their client base has deteriorated but there is always someone out there looking for cheap print. You get what you pay for I guess.

 

[HPC]

If the shop has to "fight" with the job because its seconds paper, there is no savings. If you tick off a customer, your looking at a loss, that may not be recoverable. We do use seconds, but only on specific jobs, there is only one seconds house that comes up to our quality standards, the rest of them are so bad we won't buy from them. The point I am trying to make is choose your battles wisely.

 

[mazengh]

HPC, can you send me the contact information of your approved seconds house...

 

[HPC]

Check your P.M. info sent...