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I have been looking for the source file for the P2P25Xa to import into Color Port as a reference. I've gone onto Idealliance's website but they only have the P2P25 and P2P25X file available with a TIF file of the P2P25Xa. Might anyone be able to direct me where to download it or be able to...

Agreed with Mr. D - Are you referring to the Print Tone or Mass Tone? If you are concerned about it, ask your supplier if that particular process ink series is ISO2846 and or ISO12647-2 compliant. I have plenty of clients that get hung up on how ink looks in a can or ink fount instead of...

Ray, What are you using to verify grey? You're welcome to send me the CGATS file of the P2P area and I'll take a look at it to verify your readings. You can message me and I'll give you my e-mail.

Just curious, which 2 steps have you tried and what doeses? We have our own fountain solution chemistries / formulations that are made to run with specific ink and plate combinations. Have you tried calling your ink manufacturer (That would be me and or our staff) to discuss the problem? It's...

Once the job has been printed, there's really limited options. *I'm assuming that this is on your Heidelberg XL105 and not the Web, correct? If you ran this sheet-fed: 1. You can run the sheets through the press with your IR's on but if it's a 2 sided job, you may want to be cautious about...

Ink stripping. Your rollers are hydrophilic and attracting water to the point it over powers the ink. I'm sure there's a thread on here about it.

Sounds like you're running a very "Wet" fountain solution and it's migrating up the roller train. I don't know if you have brush or continous dampening on that press but it sounds like an uneven balance of ink and water.

Steve- can you send me your e-mail address? Or mine is [email protected]. Thanks.

Precisely! On Spot On, the Delta E is 4.0 for CMY (Gray). On Curve3, I get a Delta E of 8.0 for CMY (Gray). Looking back at it, I should have taken the sheet and measured the L*a*b* values within the P2P area with a handheld to verify the 3/C area. The L*a*b* values for CMY on Curve3 are...

Does anyone use Curve2 or Curve3 and use Spot On to verify a calibration once completing a G7 run? Does anyone else get radically different between the two results as far as the Delta E readings? Just curious.

It really gets me crazy when other ink vendors claim to have a "G7 Certified Ink." I wish they would learn the proper terminology. What Gordo is saying is 100% accurate. Actually, I'd be more concerned with ISO-12647-2, not 12647-1. One relates more to mass tone/ink in the can and the other...

Just curious, do you mean "Ink Agitators?"

D - Great contribution to the thread. Did you pick those techniques up at Capitol, Flint, K&M, Braden, or at Sicpa =)? Drinks on me when you're next in Los Angeles - good catch.

Bob, Just curious, what kind of press are they on? Are they using processless plates that might be running plate emulsions up the roller train? On a Heidelberg or a Roland, the staining might not be as visible but on a press with any kind of copper rollers, the riders will certainly...

I actually have had a few customers that have ran it to coat some digital jobs. From what I have seen, the viscosity difference between a "True AQueous Coating" and the "Saphire Solution" is quite great. Have you tried just running the Posco product through the water pans on the last unit? You...

I personally use the Myron L Ultra Meter 6p. It measures pH, Conductivity, Temperature, and is water resistant up to 3 feet. I actually bought mine off E-bay and sent it to Myron L for a full calibration to be on the safe side.

"Funny part is the USA is still using the 20 - 22 as a starting point then changing them out once they get to the 25 point." Luke, Those numbers described are a bit low for U.S. durometers. For alcohol free printing, regardless of the machine, water form and metering rollers typically begin...

Luke, I forgot to mention the foaming that will occur with any of those Amorphous silica based products. Most of the people that use those plates are on small gravity fed fountain solution bottles (AB Dick, Multi, or Hamada type presses). A little bit of Anti Foam will temporarely help but you...

D - I totally agree with that statement. There really is a lack of support from the vendor side but there are a whole lot of "Try This and Try That." I read another one of your postings discussing the importancy of service from vendors and this is a prime example.. Luke - Have you tried getting...

Luke, You face the same problem that Poly plate users have for years. On the Polyester plate surface, there isn't sufficient grain on the plate to effectively carry water and maintain the non-image area clean. At the same time, you find yourself trying to balance ink and water. A little one way...