Envelope printing

[Guest]

Kringle,
We started seeing the black edge on a job yesterday, so today I pulled the fuser to look at that tab you are talking about. I saw that it was just an extension, or tab that extends further up off that guide plate. When I went to remove the plate, I noticed that there are 2 slotted holes next to the screws, moving the screws to those holes makes the plate ADJUSTABLE!! So I put it on the widest setting, mark is gone now....hope it stays that way!

AWESOME! Yes, it will slide back a bit by using those holes, but not far enough back on ours to stop marking, so we did a minor grind. Glad it's working out! I still don't know the purpose of that tab. I must be a better guide for thinner papers or something????

Has anybody tried the aftermarket toner in these things? A lot of good feedback on ebay, but I'm hoping to get a bit more feedback before I make the plunge.

 

[Yroc]

Has anybody tried the aftermarket toner in these things? A lot of good feedback on ebay, but I'm hoping to get a bit more feedback before I make the plunge.

It doesn't work. The chip is different and it won't accept it. BUUUT I heard that there is a setting in service mode that will allow you to use Ricoh toner. Unless you found a reseller that is resetting the Xante chips so that it will run.

Remember that the Xante toner is fuse once, so your customers can run letterhead and/or envelopes through their laser printers and not have the toner melt, so don't switch if you have customers that would need to do this.

 

[Yroc]

So those Impressia refills on eBay claim to be the exact same toner...that would be nice. But he says that he doesn't have any chips or a resetter, just that you can use it until the printer makes you stop....wonder when that is? If anyone has used this, I'm interested.

 

[BilLongua]

Neil,

We we offer both toner based (OKI) and inkjet based (Memjet) solutions for envelope printing in full color. There's a Neopost office right in Pittsburgh where you can see both technologies and compare the +\- of each. Our specialists can run your own samples on your own stocks so you can see it in person - and we have local service technicians to support you.

The one that is right for you and your customers will come down to what technology you prefer.

I'm happy to put you in touch. Good luck!

Bil Longua
Senior Director
Neopost DPG
888/444-7362
[email protected]

 

[drosin6701]

Hi we have an oki 941 and a Formax colormax 7. the oki is the superior machine, hands down. we run it using the straight shooter. and we occasionally have skew and jam problems, but it seems from reading all the posts on all the forums that these issues are to be expected when printing envelopes
The memjet is not very good at anything other than printing just an address, the color is not as rich/vibrant as toner so full color work is not as good as the toner machines.
The ink is water based, so if it gets wet (e.g a mailing that goes out on a rainy day) it all runs. For the same reason, envelopes printed with heavy coverage will bleed onto your (and your customer's) fingers.
The "full bleed" capability is not as simple as its made out to be.

The printhead is a very delicate thing, we have replaced it 5 times in the year we have owned the machine. The cleaning regimen is a little crazy, alot of washing and disassembling and reassembling (the operator's manual is at least 2 inches thick) if you make any mistakes while going through the cleaning process, you can break expensive parts.
If you do go with a memjet, make sure to get some kind of service contract, dont do pay as you go on the service, you will regret it.
We purchased it because we run variable data on envelopes that have thermography on them, and those cannot go through a typical digital printed because of the heat involved. The Memjet has no heat so that was a plus for us.

 

[Shawnd]

I wanted to update my thoughts on the 931e, we have since replaced the entire MFP door and the thickness sensor that was causing us so many jamming issues, it is like having a new machine. We can now run envelopes on "light" mode setting which is faster and has fewer temp adjustments and we still get good fusing on envelopes and the graphics still look way better than a memjet. I just ran 9000 A7's (its that time of year) with mixed variable data printing on them and only had a hand full of jams.

As to life of the printer, we have over 500K now and it prints the same quality as day 1.

 

[bill kahny]

I have a riso 7150 inkjet its fast and cheap but only ok on color. OKI 9650 laser with envelope feeder, with all the problems mentioned above, but great quality. For invitations on the new petallics envelopes it can't be beat and inkjet won't dry. We still run a ryobi 3302 for 2 color long static runs. For long addressing only I have a secap jet 1 with 2 print heads. There is no perfect answer and no machine can do it all. They all have their nitch and draw backs. If I had to pick just one the Oki has the best quality with the largest range of uses, I guess it would be the one.

 

[AP90]

Were taking order of a Versant 3100 next month. Apparently they run envelopes like a boss. Click for color is higher, but a guy I spoke with ran 5k envelopes the first day he got his with only 1 jam.

 

[PeterW]

Hello Neil,
We have iJet Color envelope PrintWare printer. It is fast, rugged and built for high performance short run color envelope printer. Please take a look at the video presentation. There is more info at http://www.viprofix.com/new-envelope-press-equipment/
Please do not hesitate to contact me with any questions or comments.

Peter Warzecha
www.viprofix.com
Phone: +1-773-545-7700 ext. 217
Email: [email protected]