Ingede declares Indigo print 'unusable' - Oh dear!

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Ingede declares Indigo print 'unusable'

printweek.com, 12 November 2010

De-inking association Ingede has said that the de-inking mills of its associate members will no longer accept HP Indigo liquid toner print for de-inking after the material caused more than a hundred tonnes of paper to be dumped.
 
ajr said:
Ingede declares Indigo print 'unusable'

printweek.com, 12 November 2010

De-inking association Ingede has said that the de-inking mills of its associate members will no longer accept HP Indigo liquid toner print for de-inking after the material caused more than a hundred tonnes of paper to be dumped.
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This could be interesting, especially with the Indigo print volume growing as it has of late.
 
How do recyclers recognize HP Indigo presswork in consumer recycling in order to keep it out of the paper recycling stream?

best, gordon p
 
gordo said:
How do recyclers recognize HP Indigo presswork in consumer recycling in order to keep it out of the paper recycling stream?

best, gordon p
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I think this will be the bigger concern Gordon. Will they flag Indigo owners and refuse all recyclables from their business, or will there be a larger cloud of suspicion over recycling printed materials in general?
 
HP have been trying to bury this problem for years. They have known their liquid toner prints can't be recycled but refuse to publicly acknowledge it. The remedy in Europe is that all prints will have include a label that says the print can't be recycled. If the de-inkers continue to lose like the recent mill problem, 100,000 Euros, the mills will have to take action against HP prints. HP needs to step up and come up with a solution but they won't. What happens to all of those printers who bought Indigos with no knowlege of this issue disclosed by HP?
 
Inkjet and water based flexo also have the same problem. Once fiber has come in contact with these printing processes inkjet, water based flexo, and indigo it is useless for most paper grades. It now is destined for chipboard and construction paper.
 
The liquid toner,inkjet,and waterbased flexo suppliers have been informing the industry about sustainability, being green and so on and so forth. I do think that they are talking out of both sides of their mouth at the same time. The information on the recycling problems have been known for over ten years.

What is the printer supposed to do with their waste least alone putting product in a consumers hands that has the potential to screw up the recycling industry.

Don't tell us it doesn't screw up the paper mill it has been demonstrated a on a HUGE scale that it does.

Suppliers of liquid toner, inkjet, and water based flexo be upfront and let us know the ramifications of using your technology and what the long term consequences concerning printed substrate recycling.
 
Our recycler has informed most of their fiber providers of the following new policy. if they find any inkjet or indigo scrap in any loads the whole load will be rejected for commercial grade white.
The load then is classified for chipboard and packaging and fiber providers will be paid only 25% of the white grade. If they continue to find any contraband fiber in other loads that fiber provider would be on the permanent chipboard packaging list. He told us that they verbally informed most of their fiber providers of the new policy.
Also they will no longer accept any newsprint. Said there is no market for it along with the possibility of getting some flexo printed papers.

We were also informed that if a recycler verifies it as good fiber and it is not the mill can charge back for all the problems.
 
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