SORSZ conventional Damping

[saheb]

Hello every one
I have SORSZ machine ,its old machine but in very good condition,its damping system is conventional (reciprocating roller ) so i would like to know if some one try to change the old damping system to continous damping? and if so do you think its will work like original machine that equipped with continuous damping system? please advice me because i really hate this old system but i very love this machine although its old

Regards

Babylon

 

[CKL]

Are you running a cover on the water form or are you running a (Bare Back) rubber roller?

 

[dana]

Hello,

the only option comes to mind, the delta dampener

What you gain is a very well made aftermarket dampener that will allow you to have precise control of your water and a bonus is the hickey picking feature. this system has a bridge roller that links to your inking system and you still retain all four ink form rollers.

Delta Dampener
Epic Products International, Inc. [ Coaters - Delta Dampening System - and more... ]
Phone: 817-640-3037

 

[saheb]

Hello dear CKL ,i am running cover on the water form rollers,but i have no idea about the ( Bare Back rubber roller) so can you explain to me please?

 

[saheb]

hi dear Dana
Thank you,i will consider this option of delta damping

 

[Alois Senefelder]

re Bare Back

re Bare Back

Hi Babylon, Bare Back simply means using a Rubber Roller as a Damping Forme Roller - without it being covered in Molleton Fabric .

Reagards, Alois

 

[saheb]

hi Alois Senefelder
Thanks for illustration,but i think its impossible to work without the cover,do any one try that before? i did try that long time ago but i got more difficults specially at start up !

 

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[rbailleu]

I believe kompac makes a cheaper option.

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[GazKL440]

Kompac are pretty good, even a hybrid system (bareback form retaining molleton vibrator) is a better solution than ridgy didge conventionals..have also used an aquaprint system that uses a bareback roller and a metering roller as per normal alcohol dampening and provides good adjustability, but makes re-setting rollers a pain..

 

[spigot]

do the hybrid systems perform well? i once heard they did strange things, but i havent run one myself.
Im just unsure if adding integration thats not factory per se would be a problem, for example on large coverage areas with reversings etc all over it. The manufacturers say they run up to colour quicker, and are generally stable, are there any other benefits?

 

[GazKL440]

do the hybrid systems perform well? i once heard they did strange things, but i havent run one myself.
Im just unsure if adding integration thats not factory per se would be a problem, for example on large coverage areas with reversings etc all over it. The manufacturers say they run up to colour quicker, and are generally stable, are there any other benefits?

as opposed to the original molleton covered vibrator+2 formes, the hybrid with the single bare back forme works pretty well, much less in the way of hickeys with a cleaner sharper print in genereal, but can be a little sensitive to ink and water balance, at least in my experience.. Easier to clean up to as you just drop inkers+dampener onto plate during washup while lifting out vibrator.. can get away with washing it once a day depending on amount of clean ups.. I had no probs running full size solids with fine reversed out screens on a GTO52ZP, excepting for the heart attack you get when you see a full brown solid on the proof "you want me to run WHAT on the GTO??"

 

[pthielen]

Think twice

Think twice

I had run a SORKZ for quite a few years. The press had conventional damps on it. You may be creating more problems for yourself in the long run.

Use 1 water form and clean it daily, you should have good luck. Do this by locking the water ductor to the off position while washing up the press. After you are done with the ink roller washup, drop the water form onto the plate and hit the ink and water rollers one more time or until the plate is clean (use water miscible solution if possible).

The press was made for conventional damps, but if you have luck in other areas, please post.

Regards,
Paul
Pressman since 1979

 

[saheb]

thanks Paul

thanks Paul

its seem good idea,i will try it
thank you

Babylon

 

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Hello every one
I have SORSZ machine ,its old machine but in very good condition,its damping system is conventional (reciprocating roller ) so i would like to know if some one try to change the old damping system to continous damping? and if so do you think its will work like original machine that equipped with continuous damping system? please advice me because i really hate this old system but i very love this machine although its old

Regards

Babylon

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[turbotom1052]

the conventinal dampening system on an s model heidelberg was a proven and reliable system. there was much more maintenance required due to having to change cloth coverings but in the hands of an experienced pressman the system was capable of delivering some pretty impressive results. I think that the level of craftsmanship in the trade these days would have you hard pressed to find someone that could effectively run this system as someone with that skillset would probably be working in a supervisory capacity or at the very least running a larger multicolor press. Not sure if in this current market it would pay to retrofit an aftermarket continuos dampening system to this press due to the high cost. If you do find yourself sticking with the conventional system feel free to private message me for some tips on how to best make it work. Good luck with whatever your choice is.