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    I'm currently using Publisher for VDP for postcard jobs. The issue is that Publisher is crazy slow and usually crashes when I send more than 1,000 records to my printer. The goal is to have a good VDP solution for my postcard jobs (printing 8 to a page) and other VDP jobs. I'm looking for a <$1,000 option if that's available.

    Second question - will VDP software allow you to do flyer and other collateral material design in the program? If not, what are some good softwares? I'm just getting into more custom stuff and am looking for solutions.

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    *Throws up in mouth*

    Look up Adobe InDesign, through Adobe Creative Cloud.

    Most people say FusionPro is the way to go for better VDP.

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    • #3
      PricelineNegotiator what's with the"*Throws up in mouth*" comment?

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      • #4
        Hey, openletter. Since you are just starting out, FusionPro would probably be you're best bet. It's very reasonable ($600 - $800, I think). When you're volume increases, you'll probably need to go with something a little more robust, but, FusionPro should do what you need for now.

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        • #5
          PSL Page Builder VDP can certainly handle your postcard needs as well as multi-page collateral documents. It has the ability to impose your jobs internally eliminating the need to rely on the RIP. The software is now available On Demand. Turn it on when you need it. Turn it off when you don't.

          Thomas Bougher
          Jet Letter Corporation

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          • #6
            Sorry, Publisher is semi-taboo in the print industry. Most people reading and replying to this thread probably bash Publisher on a weekly basis.

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            • #7
              MailGuru what would be the next step after Fusion Pro. Although I'm just starting out, my orders may quickly get up to 10k-50k postcards. I want to make sure I'm planning appropriately for the future and reduce the amount of time I need to learn a new software.

              Digital Press Guy thank you. I'll look into this.

              PricelineNegotiator oh, yea. I completely get why. It's been terrible.

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              • #8
                I think a lot of people here use InDesign and Fusion Pro as a combo, and I think it's actually pretty high end software. I would recommend investing in a computer with an m.2 drive and a solid i7 with 16 or 32 gb of ram to be honest. A decent graphics card always helps too.

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                • #9
                  If you are just addressing postcards fusion pro is perfect for almost any quantity. We use it for all our mailings. Usually a couple hundred thousand pieces a week ranging from jobs of a few hundred to jobs of 100,000. If you are starting with PDF files and overlaying addresses there isn't really a better way to go. If you get to large quantities you might just have to wait to let it process the output for a little while. 50k might take 15 minutes. If you open a second instance of acrobat you process another job at the same time. I think they have a trial available.

                  Now if you want to get into really complicated variable designs it can be easier to set up with other more expensive software but that doesn't sound like what you are doing.

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                  • #10
                    I have been using InDesign and Fusion Pro for years. It's affordable and I haven't found a job it couldn't handle yet. We do some very complex variable data jobs with floating tables, inline graphics, 100's of variable images, etc. I am comfortable with writing code for the more complex jobs so it works well for me. For what you are doing with postcards, you will have it running in no time with the easy to use variable text editor.

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                    • #11
                      I've been using Fusion Pro for about a decade now probably, almost exclusively as an Acrobat Professional plugin (working directly on the PDFs, no InDesign). You'll certainly see many improvements using that over Publisher (using Acrobat or in InDesign). Fusion Pro itself has different levels as well. We used just the base version for years, but upgraded a year or so ago to 'Producer' which greatly improves processing speed for larger lists or if you process many lists through the day (example: a list that took 53 minutes in base takes < 3 minutes). There's another level above that as well that I think helps with automation. Those upgrades are pricey, but I do think you'd notice immediate benefits moving from Publisher just with the base version of Fusion Pro and then you can decide down the road if the faster processing is worth the price.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by openletter View Post
                        MailGuru what would be the next step after Fusion Pro. Although I'm just starting out, my orders may quickly get up to 10k-50k postcards. I want to make sure I'm planning appropriately for the future and reduce the amount of time I need to learn a new software.
                        We use XMPie. It's a Xerox-owned company. We started years ago with the base (desk-top) version. As our volume and variable data/image became more complex, we upgraded to the server version. The base is relatively affordable and, it's a plugin to InDesign (you use it while in InDesign via a drop-down menu). The server versions can get quite pricey, but, the speed is awesome.
                        Last edited by MailGuru; 02-28-2017, 12:26 PM.

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                        • #13
                          You can use indesign for VDP, though if it gets heavy obviously a dedicated program would be better. Generally the only VDP we do is text (titles, names, addresses, etc). All graphic elements are static. Indesign handles it well and will let you do design as well. You do have to pay a monthly subscription for Adobe CC, but you get everything for that monthly fee... indesign, illustrator, photoshop and much more. I would try a demo of indesign and see how it works for you and if it will meet your VDP needs.

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                          • #14
                            Fusion Pro --- output PPML most production fierys will rip and print fast... best solutions out there for small to mid volume. Also can do just about anything in FP if you can <CODE> a bit of JS.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by methogod View Post
                              Fusion Pro --- output PPML most production fierys will rip and print fast... best solutions out there for small to mid volume. Also can do just about anything in FP if you can <CODE> a bit of JS.
                              What is the general price range for FusionPro?

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