regular 10k booklet run

[wightprint]

I am a Digital Printer, but have a monthly 10k 44pp A5 booklet run that I currently farm out. This months run was 'off'. The Cover colours were way out, I managed to get a re-print, but I really want to take this job 'in house' my current unit price is about 30p. is there any other than a £100k lytho machine that could deliver these quantities at this price.

 

[Ynot_UK]

I am a Digital Printer, but have a monthly 10k 44pp A5 booklet run that I currently farm out. This months run was 'off'. The Cover colours were way out, I managed to get a re-print, but I really want to take this job 'in house' my current unit price is about 30p. is there any other than a £100k lytho machine that could deliver these quantities at this price.

Depending on a few variables you've not touched on, in particular substrate type & weight and are all booklet spreads CMYK or any of them BW, then you could get close to this figure (certainly below 40p) digitally provided you're on a competitive click rate.
If your shop doesn't currently do litho in-house, don't even begin to consider that route. And remember the booklet finishing process on litho is completely different whereas on digital your sets are pre-collated ready for the booklet maker, with possibly only the cover separate if a different weight that needs pre-creasing.

 

[Tonez]

I am a Digital Printer, but have a monthly 10k 44pp A5 booklet run that I currently farm out. This months run was 'off'. The Cover colours were way out, I managed to get a re-print, but I really want to take this job 'in house' my current unit price is about 30p. is there any other than a £100k lytho machine that could deliver these quantities at this price.

sense COVID anything we send out we have had to be more flexible on but i never let the color or position be too far off, before COVID we wouldn't accept anything that was not what we ordered.

i have a couple larger jobs that I farm out but i keep some level of quality control, i never drop ship i always have it come in house and sort before it goes out, i can count 2 times from 2 different companies in the last 10 years that i have had to have them reprint 75k + books do to there mistake and i can tell you from experience when you make them reprint on such a costly job, there consistency will be significantly better moving forward.

30p seems kinda high for most books i have ever ran..... that being said we would need more info on the job.
one of my larger ones that's 100k books a month runs me about $2 a 35 page book but its gloss cover 100 # 4/4 but the insides are 50# text B/W about the same size your running. done on a lytho machine!
and another one that's 75k a month runs me about $20 a book but its 4/4 40 page book done on a digital machine.
i shoot for a 40% profit over cost just depends how bad you want the account .


i would suggest a mix of having the job printed ells-ware but putting them together yourself/ maybe cutting/folding/scoring/stapling in house depending on your capabilities!

I agree with Ynot_UK don't start lytho in-house if you don't already have it in-house it can add up $$$$.

 

[gazfocus]

Depending on a few variables you've not touched on, in particular substrate type & weight and are all booklet spreads CMYK or any of them BW, then you could get close to this figure (certainly below 40p) digitally provided you're on a competitive click rate.
If your shop doesn't currently do litho in-house, don't even begin to consider that route. And remember the booklet finishing process on litho is completely different whereas on digital your sets are pre-collated ready for the booklet maker, with possibly only the cover separate if a different weight that needs pre-creasing.

Just to add, depending on the paper type, you'd need to get a good paper price from your paper supplier as well to get close to 30p (including click charge). That said, if it was just say 100gsm uncoated paper with maybe a 170gsm cover and all inner pages were b&w, I could see you getting relatively close to 30p per unit but if there are colour pages in the mix (other than the cover), I think you're going to struggle on a digital machine. As Ynot_UK says though, if you don't do litho already, I'd avoid it if you can.

 

[MailGuru]

What's your turn time?

 

[wightprint]

What's your turn time?

1 week / 10 days tops

 

[pippip]

This will never be economical to bring in-house.

The print house you used have probably learnt their lesson with already having to reprint it.

I'd just give them a warning each time you send in the job and speak with your account manager to emphasis the quality you need in future.