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Yes Andrew, there is already some DeviceLink profiles available here (Fogra53 > Fogra51 and Fogra53 > Fogra52): http://www.eci.org/en/downloads

Hello Roland_Epson, your post i really off topic. Please post your question as a new post instead and I'm sure that we can help you to answer your question.

True true! Let's suppose (in a parallel universe) Adobe makes Fogra53 the default CMYK working space. Do you think this wide gamut CMYK would be a good approach then?

Hi Erik, I might have lost you a bit while reading your post. But the Fogra53 doesn't mean that you get rid of any custom profiles at the printer as I understand it. It rather means that the customer/print buyer can use just one CMYK- working color space. The conversion to the custom icc-profile...

FOGRA39 is already replaced by FOGRA51. But the approach you are using with one single CMYK-profile towards your customers is the same (I think) as how ECI and Fogra would like FOGRA53 to be used. Make it easier for the designer/print buyer but a little bit harder for the printer.

I'm guessing you meant to say "before printing"? I'm also wondering what the advantage are, thats why I created this post. I'm not sold yet. Fogra says: "The advantage of using a CMYK-based exchange colour space is that the complete design takes place in a single colour space. Colour...

This might not be interesting for people in the US but... ...a few weeks ago ECI (European Color Inititive) together with Fogra and GMG released a new icc-profile based on Fogra 53 - the eciCMYK.icc. http://www.eci.org/en/colourstandards/workingcolorspaces...

Since you are converting from Lab to CMYK, the rendering method is really important. You will get different results if you toggle between relative with bpc, perceptual and absolute conversion. Often when I convert Lab to CMYK I start with an absolute conversion and then proof it.

Really nice! Where can I get this program?

Thanks Alith!

Hi, were can I find the DEER posters? I did not succeed to order or download from the Idealliance site.. http://prod.idealliance.org/products/2012-deer-posters

We do a lot of print work for clients like ad agencys and design agencys. We are printing and proofing accordingly to Fogra51 and Fogra52 (sheetfed offset and digital printing F51). We even run certification program which assure that we are printing according to ISO 12647-2:2013. Now and then...

I got this input from Juergen at GMG (I hope he doesn't mind me sharing) - "Several researches have shown that in fact, the DE2000 formula is the closest to our perception. With 12647-7:2016 tolerances for the verification have been lowered in order to get an average comparable pass/fail, if...

Thanks Stephen, your results is quite similar to mine (just a -+0,5 diff).

Interesting Stephen, can you do the same experiment on the other patches? There is a URL to the PDF in my original post.

You can find the DeltaE values in the attached photo in my first post. I did not record the actual Lab-values.

Yes, exactly. Wouldn't that result in a higher ∆E value in skin tones thats deviates in hue compared to ∆E76?

Hi, for years we have been using ∆E CIELAB 1976 calculation when measure color deviation on print and proofs (and displays sometimes). A year ago I was on a seminar with a color specialist from GMG who talked about ∆E 2000 as a successor of the old 1976 formula. He said that one of the...

Indesign CS5 is soon 7 years old.. If your work require you to work with Indesign you really need to upgrade.

Hi Kristen, Ghent Workgroup are providing specs. and instructions regarding this topic, maybe this can be of some interest: http://www.gwg.org/%20gwg-2015-specifications/ http://www.gwg.org/gwg-2015-pdfx-workflow/ Best regards, Magnus