Hybrid Packz & RIP vs Esko

FlexoArt

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Has anyone here migrated from Esko software to Hybrid? If so, can you comment on the pros and cons?

I'm currently using DeskPack with PowerLayout Client, PowerTrapper Standalone, Dynamic Barcodes. My RIP is Imaging Engine 18.0 and a stripped down version of Automation Engine 18.0 (DeskPack Server). I also use DotSpy for viewing LEN files and an Esko Spark 25x30 CDI. I really want to get up to date on my MacOS and Illustrator version, but I can't until my Esko software is updated. My Dell server is almost 8 years old and running Server 2008 R2, so Esko is recommending that be replaced if I want to run the latest 20.1 version of their software. If I update my MacOS, I will lose the ability to use DotSpy (it's 32 bit only).

Esko support is recommending that I upgrade to a complete version of Automation Engine (that includes a viewer for RIPped files). This would also require 5 days or 30 hours of training, along with a new server. I work alone at Flexo printer and really don't think I need a full blown Automation Engine (or the cost), so if I make a change to Hybrid, this would probably be a good time to do it. I'm not at all windows server savvy, so any software updates have to done by Esko with extra fees that are not included with our service contract – I don't know anything about updating databases, SQL Servers, etc.

In your opinion, do you think Hybrid's offerings would make more sense for a one man prepress show? I think I would be looking at Packz and a Cloudflow Standalone RIP. Is their software easier to maintain and do updates? Any issues with Esko CDI software compatibility using a Hybrid RIP?

Thanks
 

BAM_Hybrid

New member
Has anyone here migrated from Esko software to Hybrid? If so, can you comment on the pros and cons?

I'm currently using DeskPack with PowerLayout Client, PowerTrapper Standalone, Dynamic Barcodes. My RIP is Imaging Engine 18.0 and a stripped down version of Automation Engine 18.0 (DeskPack Server). I also use DotSpy for viewing LEN files and an Esko Spark 25x30 CDI. I really want to get up to date on my MacOS and Illustrator version, but I can't until my Esko software is updated. My Dell server is almost 8 years old and running Server 2008 R2, so Esko is recommending that be replaced if I want to run the latest 20.1 version of their software. If I update my MacOS, I will lose the ability to use DotSpy (it's 32 bit only).

Esko support is recommending that I upgrade to a complete version of Automation Engine (that includes a viewer for RIPped files). This would also require 5 days or 30 hours of training, along with a new server. I work alone at Flexo printer and really don't think I need a full blown Automation Engine (or the cost), so if I make a change to Hybrid, this would probably be a good time to do it. I'm not at all windows server savvy, so any software updates have to done by Esko with extra fees that are not included with our service contract – I don't know anything about updating databases, SQL Servers, etc.

In your opinion, do you think Hybrid's offerings would make more sense for a one man prepress show? I think I would be looking at Packz and a Cloudflow Standalone RIP. Is their software easier to maintain and do updates? Any issues with Esko CDI software compatibility using a Hybrid RIP?

Thanks
Hello, I’m the sales manager for Hybrid Software in the central region and cover Minnesota. I would be more than happy to connect you with some of my customers that have made the transition from Esko to Hybrid so you can get an unbiased opinion. I do feel for a single operator environment a seat of Packz and a Cloudflow Rip is perfect. Please feel free to contact me outside the forum at brianm@hybridsoftware.com and I will give you these contacts to talk to and any other details so you can make an informed decision. Thank you, Brian.
 

krez71

New member
FlexoArt we made this change about 5 years ago and we we're in the same situation with Esko. We did the switch to Hybrid and have been very happy with the switch. The rip is very solid and easy to use and change curves if needed. And Packz is very user friendly and the trapping is excellent and easy to edit. Laying out jobs in Packz vs PowerLayout is also much easier. Hybrid also uses Proofscope which would replace your Dot Spy for viewing Tif files. Let me know if you have any specific questions. Since we made the switch we are a huge fan of the Hybrid software and support team.
 

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