Kodak plates thermal direct

[Green Printer]

Hi Kevin

Do your require an MSDS sheet for the Sonora XP plate?

 

[KevinC@EFI]

Sonora XP is an "article", so does not require an MSDS as would a chemical. I believe we may have an "Article Information Sheet", but that's standard for many plates/etc.

 

[Green Printer]

Do i need to keep the first 20 sheets out of the paper recycling bin? Will my paper recycler deduct from our scrape prices if I let the first few sheets in the recycling? I don't want to contaminate my paper for recycling.

 

[KevinC@EFI]

Lol, no... there is no concern over that, and there is SO little coating that this has never been a concern for others either. The TD/Sonora XP coating is about 40% thinner than a standard plate as well, so there's less than 1g/m2 of polymer... even less when you consider only a portion of that is removed from the plate. We'd have less concerns about that being recycled in your paper than I would about your ink and fount chemicals that are present in much higher quantities.

 

[Green Printer]

Thank you Kevin

 

[Alois Senefelder]

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Gentlemen,


Being a relic from the Stone Age, but one that keeps an open mind.

Since posting a RANT regarding OPD Plates, I have since found I was not correct,

in my defence I based my assumptions with my experience of Aqueous Developed Plates.


For this error I have been sentenced to - Levigate 50 Stones !! sized - Double Demy

My regards, Alois

 

[KevinC@EFI]

Lol Alois - our competitors have done a good job in FUD marketing against us so it's a common misperception we fight against - you're not alone! In a process as complicated as the mechanical and chemical wonder of offset printing, people are (understandably) skeptical and reluctant of change.

However, to keep print cost competitive and in line with our environmental responsibility sometimes we need to try new things... or try old things again (with improvements of course!). As far as platemaking goes, eliminating the processor and chemistry is one of the few huge opportunities left.

Kevin.

 

[Green Printer]

Another question Kevin. Is the removed coating still able to cross link in white light?

 

[KevinC@EFI]

Another question Kevin. Is the removed coating still able to cross link in white light?

That's an interesting question, and I'm not sure how to answer it except in theory. The little bit of coating would be mixed with your founts and ink when applied to the press sheet though. I would expect the coating particles to be broken up into smaller pieces by that point instead of being one homogeneous coating like it is on the plate. They'd be separated by ink particles and fount, lint, etc. as well. That would likely prevent any cross-linking that did occur from having macro-scale impacts.

Kevin.

 

[12451j]

I agree with Gordo. I have an account that I do the press maintenance for. This account is a mid size newspaper and they use the Kodak Non-process plates. We don't see contamination with the Nova Mild acid FS.

 

[Buckers]

Hi

Is the production of the Kodak TD still current?
Or has it been discontinued in favour of its successor Sonora T57?

Regards

Buckers

 

[KevinC@EFI]

Hi

Is the production of the Kodak TD still current?
Or has it been discontinued in favour of its successor Sonora T57?

Regards

Buckers

Yes, we are still making Thermal Direct for now. New installations are being done with Sonora, and we'll be offering conversion/upgrade to current customers as we go forward. Priority depends on their particular situation and if they'll get any value out of the higher imaging speed and contrast and other features. We'll eventually phase out Thermal Direct, but there is no specific plan or date for that yet - and we're in no particular rush to do so.

TD was most commonly used on Kodak SQUAREspot imaging devices though, because the high power density of that head helped get good productivity on the slower TD plate. So, the difference isn't as big for them as it would be for someone using a low power density head like Screen or a Heidelberg Suprasetter.

Kevin.

 

[Derek@Kodak]

It’s been a while since Kevin’s last post, so here’s an update. Kodak’s Sonora Process Free Plates are now commercialized across the globe. There are no immediate plans to discontinue Thermal Direct, and as Kevin mentioned, priority for converting Thermal Direct customers to Sonora depends on if they will benefit from the faster imaging, etc. that Sonora plates offer. Because Sonora plates are faster and have expanded print capabilities compared to Thermal Direct, we want to make sure larger printers know that now process free is accessible to them, even if Thermal Direct couldn’t meet their needs before.

We continue to get questions about press contamination because, as Kevin mentioned, competitors are trying to plant concerns against the technology. So we have a white paper that you can read which explains why press contamination isn’t a concern. You can find it on our Sonora web page at Process Free Plates - Kodak Graphic Communications Group.
- Derek@Kodak

 

[Fatboysmart]

We have been using Thermal Direct plates for about 7 years now, and I can confirm that press contamination is not an issue at all.

 

[Sev]

We have been using Thermal Direct plates for about 7 years now, and I can confirm that press contamination is not an issue at all.

We also have been using the Thermal Direct plates for a few years now, with no contamination at all, or any other issues. The pressmen love these plates. Being in prepress, I like the fact that there is no plate processor to deal with, or clean.

-Sev

 

[muneebahmedm]

We have a Heidelberg SM 52 2 Color printing machine.
We use UV inks for printing on metallic sheets so that UV ink can easily dry by UV curing lamp.
The problem we are facing is that after 1 complete printing job with UV inks,
the plates which are used for printing become light and we can not use them to print the same job next time.So we have to expose a new plate.
Please suggest some solution.
Thanx.