Okidata C9650

[DeniseR]

I am looking into purchasing an oki 9650 to print envelopes and cardstock. Is there anyone who has one and uses compatible toner as oposed to genuine and is happy with the quality. I have used off brand toner in the past with a small HP Laserjet and the yeild is definatly less.
Does anyone have experience with this machine? The toner companies that I have spoken to claim that they are exactly the same.

 

[Happyprinter]

Our experience with supposed compatible toners for our Oki 9650 have not been good. Tried several different brands. Ended up costing me more money in replacement drums than it was worth.

 

[easiprint]

Agree with happyprinter. Compatible toners on the OKI machines are of varying quality, and all seem to wear the drums out faster or cause quality issues in some way. I also found that compatibles on OKI machines tend to give more problems with that awful backgrounding that OKI machines suffer from, especially on gloss papers and heavy cards.

 

[damfino]

I’ve tried 5 or 6 different vendors and can tell you that compatible toners and drums will only bring you multiple problems: poor adhesion to the paper, background toning, color inconsistency, excessive drum wear, etc.

Background toning issues using Oki brand toner and drums is always a result of low humidity. Install a humidifier and keep humidity in the 50% range and you will be OK.

 

[DeniseR]

How much does this machine cost to run with oki brand toner. I am debating between the 9650 and the 3641 - the 3641 has much lower priced toner even thought the printer itself is $9,000 more (for the same engine?!)

 

[damfino]

You have to consider all inclusive costs: toner, drum, belt, fuser, etc. Per impression cost can range from .02 to .04 (depending on where you buy your supplies) for envelopes, but can jump to .10 or more for heavy coverage. Letter sizes are double these figures and then some, because drum costs (wear) will more than double. Tabloid: double again, unless coverage is light.

The Oki's are not production machines (except for envelopes)...good for short runs only. Coated stock produces unacceptable results. Can't print large solids evenly.

The 3641 MFP is a 9650 with a scan, fax, and copy head - bloat in a print environment. You would be foolish to pay $9000. for a new unit as used units are available for as little a $1500. 90 percent of what wears is the consumables, all of which are user replaceable.

I find better much consumable deals on 9650 supplies as opposed to 3641.

 

[DeniseR]

Can you tell me where you can find cheaper consumables for the 9650 that are genuine? I don't really need the copier/scanner taht the 3641 offers so I don't see a reason to go for it besides for teh cheaper consumables. I will be running about 10,000/month on it mostly envelopes and cardstock.
What do you recomend I get?

 

[damfino]

Just Google and you will find legitimate dealers on Ebay. Drums in the $170. range and toner around $220. is reasonable (black is less). You can find one-shots on Ebay and Craig's List for less.

 

[damfino]

Reagarding your purchse/lease question, I say purchase. Speak with the local repair company, LaserSave: 732-431-3339

 

[TheProcessIStheproduct]

sorry to hi-jack, but does anyone have any tricks for minimizing envelope lines on an OKI printer?

 

[damfino]

If you are speaking of the embossing effect along the seam lines, no. Caused by the heat and pressure of the fuser rollers - not adjustable other then increasing the dwell time, potentially making the problem worse. I've printed and sold over a million envelopes on my Oki's and only one customer has ever objected.

 

[TheProcessIStheproduct]

paper type and thickness adjustments do not seem to make better or worse, do these not change pressure of fuser? I'm not saying it is unsellable, but if I can minimize or mitigate (not eliminate) then I would like to try.

 

[damfino]

Paper thickness settings in the driver only slow the printer down for more dwell time. There is no fuser roller pressure adjustment to be had.