PRINT CONTROLLERS & APPE (PDF PRINT ENGINE) 5.0?

[Shredder]

APPE 5.0 has been out for more than 2.5 years. How much time should it take?

 

[cementary]

APPE 5.0 has been out for more than 2.5 years. How much time should it take?

You mean it was announced 2.5 years ago, right?

 

[Shredder]

Yes, I bet 3.0 (current fiery) was closer to 6-8 years ago. I have been trying to find an update log between versions.

 

[PricelineNegotiator]

APPE 5.0 has been out for more than 2.5 years. How much time should it take?

I don't know. Why don't you educate yourself about it instead of complaining? Call Adobe and ask them how long it takes their customers to implement a new standard.

 

[Shredder]

Thats what Ive been doing here/Fiery community group. This is the response I got from someone on fiery board:

I suspect APPE version for IC-313 will remain where it is since it's codebase is older (FS300 Pro) than KM Fiery's just introduced with newer FS400 Pro codebases. However, I will check to see if APPE 5 is in pipeline for IC-313 and get back to you.

I wonder if KM salesman have been telling the truth that their controller is just as capable as the fiery. The KM controller (FS400 based) was released 9 months before Fiery released FS300 back in 2017. So the argument of software development taking time is negated.

I do plan on calling Adobe to find out what changes occurred between versions. I will report back if I find anything.

 

[Shredder]

I talked with Fiery salesman they are at v4.4 for IC-313. Their claim was that they do what KM tells them to do. If KM decides not to upgrade they won't upgrade. It's not in their hands.

 

[cementary]

Sounds like it's an architectural question. As far as I remember v5 appe use x64 and previous up to 4.7 were x32

 

[Shaare]

Xerox has the FS400Pro coming in soon but the real question you should ask yourself is if it'll support all of the features described such as page level rendering intent etc.

 

[Shredder]

So fiery says their platform is x64 but have no authorization to upgrade software from minolta.

I never had a Xerox so I wouldn't know.

 

[Steve0]

I talked with Fiery salesman they are at v4.4 for IC-313. Their claim was that they do what KM tells them to do. If KM decides not to upgrade they won't upgrade. It's not in their hands.

Why would EFI even build a new version for IC-313 if KM didn't order it?

 

[Dov Isaacs]

If you use old (proven, reliable) tech, that's good for you and your business, but that doesn't generate profit for Adobe, Fiery etc. This is why they push 'innovations' like mad. Somehow they need to persuade you to invest into new tech, even if it offers minimal advantages in the daily practice. The traditional method was effective marketing and frequent visits by salesmen. Alas, today that's not enough so they started to implement ways to force the users to upgrade, even if you don't really need any new features from the offerings. What I see on the DTP side is that they're now in 'overdrive' mode, Adobe InDesign being the premier vehicle to push through changes and force them onto the designers.

You are absolutely correct. Except for Adobe's print group (the organization that develops and maintains the APPE, AEPE, and PostScript software), absolutely no other part of Adobe has committed to supporting PDF 2.0, PDF/X-6, PDF/A-4, and/or PDF/VT-3. And this includes Adobe Acrobat!

If the original creator of PDF and the vendor with the largest share of PDF creation, viewing, and manipulation absolutely refuses to move forward with supporting these newer PDF and PDF subset standards (or even committing to same at some point), other than for bragging rights, OEM RIP/DFE providers have little incentive to adopt the latest APPE and AEPE versions!!

- Dov