Printing UNITED Feedback

[jwheeler]

For those of you who were able to attend, can you please share some feedback with the rest of us such as:

1. Anything truly new/revolutionary/notable (not just new models with slight upgrades) in the following categories:
   • Digital presses (toner cutsheet, inkjet cutsheet, inkjet web presses)
   • Wide format (flatbed, roll, hemming, etc)
   • Label printing and finishing
   • Bindery/Finishing equipment (perfect binding, booklet making, die-cutting, etc)
   • Software (web-to-print, workflow, imposition, etc)
   • Embellishment (spot UV, raised, UV, foiling)
   • Garment printing (DTG, DTF, dye-sub, etc)
   • Promotional item printing
2. Robotics/AI/Automation
3. Any machines that did receive a significant upgrade?
4. Offset press technology

 

[SoggyWinter]

I was hoping to see a 13" wide sheet to sheet UV inkjet cut sheet press get announced. I can't swing a B2 sized machine.

DTF printers seems to be hip- there are a ton of vendors and Epson was previewing a roll to roll DTF printer.

Sharp had a Xerox B9136, which suggests to me that they are going to be carrying a wider line of Fuji/Xerox hardware

Fuji's B2 Irridesse was not on the floor this year.

I spent a lot of time with Standard Horizon and would go to them in the future for bindery equipment on the basis that they have customer self support and their hardware seems to be really well made, much of it in house.

Nothing revolutionary, but we had a lot of good conversations.

 

[PricelineNegotiator]

Does anyone have the links to the really long daily magazine that is usually put out with the show? Should be three separate issues. I don't see it on the website.

 

[tngcas]

I was pretty impressed with Ricoh’s new automated spectrometer that will work with all printing devices (not just Ricoh) that can load a custom icc color profile. If it wasn’t $30k it would be well worth it since it’s not tied to a print engine.

They demoed how you can load a pdf file. Print one copy of the file and then scan in an old copy and it will measure the difference between the old print and new print and then create a color profile to make the new and old print match.

It also allows you to color match two different print engine by printing the same set of patches off both machines and then scanning them in.

 

[jwheeler]

I was pretty impressed with Ricoh’s new automated spectrometer that will work with all printing devices (not just Ricoh) that can load a custom icc color profile. If it wasn’t $30k it would be well worth it since it’s not tied to a print engine.

They demoed how you can load a pdf file. Print one copy of the file and then scan in an old copy and it will measure the difference between the old print and new print and then create a color profile to make the new and old print match.

It also allows you to color match two different print engine by printing the same set of patches off both machines and then scanning them in.

Awesome, thanks for sharing! I believe something like this has been on the market for a while. Konica Minolta sells an automatic spectro that is actually a re-labeled Myiro. This device is also capable of working with any print engine, and a variety of color calibration software. The techs used a combination of Curve4 and ColorCentro to match our 2 color digital presses. This unit is closer to the $5,000-$6,000 range.

 

[PricelineNegotiator]

Seems like they made it part of a paid subscription...see link here.

Is this actually it? It looks like a quarterly magazine...while Printing United is a yearly event?

 

[jwheeler]

Is this actually it? It looks like a quarterly magazine...while Printing United is a yearly event?

You're right...here's the link to the daily recaps and daily magazines from 2023. If you click on the "Digital Edition" link within the articles you'll see the magazines. I only see one for day 2 and day 3.

 

[PricelineNegotiator]

You're right...here's the link to the daily recaps and daily magazines. If you click on the "Digital Edition" link within the articles you'll see the magazines. I only see one for day 2 and day 3.

I've added the shortcuts here:
Day 2 magazine
Day 3 magazine

Well, these are for 2023, but I'm guessing this page will be updated soon with the 2024 information. I've bookmarked it and will report back when I see it update. Thank you!

 

[tngcas]

But can you

Awesome, thanks for sharing! I believe something like this has been on the market for a while. Konica Minolta sells an automatic spectro that is actually a re-labeled Myiro. This device is also capable of working with any print engine, and a variety of color calibration software. The techs used a combination of Curve4 and ColorCentro to match our 2 color digital presses. This unit is closer to the $5,000-$6,000 range.

But can you scan patches from two different printers and color match them?
My understanding is that’s the main difference is that the Ricoh system allows you to scan patches from different printers and it makes a profile to match the different print engines to a single output. You can even match a flatbed printer to say your canon digital printer as long as the printers accept a icc profile.

 

[jwheeler]

But can you

But can you scan patches from two different printers and color match them?
My understanding is that’s the main difference is that the Ricoh system allows you to scan patches from different printers and it makes a profile to match the different print engines to a single output. You can even match a flatbed printer to say your canon digital printer as long as the printers accept a icc profile.

Yes, we have a C6085 and C7090 that were outputting completely different color. The specialist from KM output charts from each printer and used the Myiro to make them match.

 

[jwheeler]

Well, these are for 2023, but I'm guessing this page will be updated soon with the 2024 information. I've bookmarked it and will report back when I see it update. Thank you!

I emailed them to find out about the 2024 versions and they provided this new link. @PricelineNegotiator

 

[PricelineNegotiator]

I emailed them to find out about the 2024 versions and they provided this new link. @PricelineNegotiator

Amazing. Thank you.

 

[Printer4life]

I was hoping to see a 13" wide sheet to sheet UV inkjet cut sheet press get announced. I can't swing a B2 sized machine.

DTF printers seems to be hip- there are a ton of vendors and Epson was previewing a roll to roll DTF printer.

Sharp had a Xerox B9136, which suggests to me that they are going to be carrying a wider line of Fuji/Xerox hardware

Fuji's B2 Irridesse was not on the floor this year.

I spent a lot of time with Standard Horizon and would go to them in the future for bindery equipment on the basis that they have customer self support and their hardware seems to be really well made, much of it in house.

Nothing revolutionary, but we had a lot of good conversations.

Canon had at Printing United the varioPRINT iX1700 very high quality sheetfed inkjet press that handles sheets sizes up to 14.3" x 26". This press will start shipping in 2025.

 

[SoggyWinter]

Canon had at Printing United the varioPRINT iX1700 very high quality sheetfed inkjet press that handles sheets sizes up to 14.3" x 26". This press will start shipping in 2025.

Thanks. I missed that machine. Did you happen to catch the min and max GSM it will support?

 

[Printer4life]

Thanks. I missed that machine. Did you happen to catch the min and max GSM it will support?

The varioPRINT iX1700 is targeted to print standard coated medias ranging from 17lb. bond to 170 lb cover (450gsm). At the show there was a packaging application on display printed on 24 pt.