replacing two oce CS665 Pro's with ?

[arcoffeen]

We run about 100k/mo on one machine and 15k/mo on the other. We have a FMV buyout lease on both these machines right now and end of life on them is end of 2015. What are peoples experience FMV buyout price now vs. waiting till end of life, does end of life significantly reduce the FMV buyout $???

Does anybody want to buy these (very low imprints considering the age)?

Right now we really like our service and sales rep for the oce so the Canon imagePRESS 6011 is top of our list but we can only afford one machine. It would have no problem handling the combined load but we're worried about putting all our eggs in one basket... We could keep one of the buyout machines but are hesitant because of end of life is fast approaching, maintenance and print quality differences between the two.

The HP Indigo is too much printer for our needs.

Haven't looked much at Xerox but would love suggestions on these or any other machines...

 

[mwheelerk]

We run about 100k/mo on one machine and 15k/mo on the other. We have a FMV buyout lease on both these machines right now and end of life on them is end of 2015. What are peoples experience FMV buyout price now vs. waiting till end of life, does end of life significantly reduce the FMV buyout $???

Does anybody want to buy these (very low imprints considering the age)?

Right now we really like our service and sales rep for the oce so the Canon imagePRESS 6011 is top of our list but we can only afford one machine. It would have no problem handling the combined load but we're worried about putting all our eggs in one basket... We could keep one of the buyout machines but are hesitant because of end of life is fast approaching, maintenance and print quality differences between the two.

The HP Indigo is too much printer for our needs.

Haven't looked much at Xerox but would love suggestions on these or any other machines...

Take a look at the Ricoh Pro 901s+ With 90ppm on any stock up to 350gsm you won't loose productivity on rated media and it has excellent registration. It can easily handle your work load and the price point should be reasonable for your needs.

 

[C8000]

(I work for KM as a Production Specialist)
On the leasing topic I would take a look at both options. If you are able to save money now in taking a little bit of a hit on the buyout then I would move now vs waiting until the end of lease. With all of the new technology on the market now 9 times out of 10 you will save money and have a huge jump in capabilities with the new device.

With that type of volume and still wanting to have 2 devices I would take a look at the new KM C1070. Based on the configuration that you would need you could still have 2 machines for a cost lower than the Canon 6011. With increased media capabilities, excellent registration, and now having a true ORU program allowing the end user to swap out parts on the fly it has been a great press since it was released just after the 1st of the year. Also the ability to run 300gs/m simplex and duplex out of three true vacuum feed trays is a nice feature.

Good luck in the search.

 

[arcoffeen]

Thanks for the responses. It sounds like the the biggest issue might be service and techs available in our area. Ricoh has some bad press about their service, makes me hesitant. KM not as bad but not a name I hear around here too often either so I wonder about availability in our region. I've requested more information and a quote from both Ricoh and KM.

About the lease, if we bought out FMV now and ran these till end of life would we have a problem selling them then? Also wouldn't out of pocket maintenance costs offset any savings on the click side? Do most people take the FMV buyout option or return the printer. Sorry if these are dumb questions this is our first equipment lease.

 

[C8000]

I can go into more detail if you would like to call me.
please email me at [email protected]

 

[JustinB]

1) What are you paying now for your 2 lease payments?

2) What's your budget going forward?

3) Have they offered you a buyout amount yet?

I've had companies say to me: "20% of the purchase price" and I've also had companies say: "you can keep it with no buy out" That was a good day!