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    I'm looking for 'WATERMARK' ink, to print on the paper using offset technology and it should looks just like the water mark paper from the paper mill. How to achieve watermark printing offset technology. Is there any inks available in the market of any customized solution to get watermark. The watermark should have no colour but looks like white manufactured during the mill. Kindly provide suggestions

  • #2
    Never heard of such a thing. You could try experimenting by mixing opaque white down with transparent white for a faint tint. Or run a clear varnish. Just a thought.

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    • #3
      Hello ponnapati123,


      A "True Water Mark" is formed on the Paper Making Machine via a Dandy Roller, the "Mark " is just a Image of what is designed.

      All you can do is print a Image using a Transparent White Tint !!!


      Regards, Alois

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Alois Senefelder View Post
        Hello ponnapati123,


        A "True Water Mark" is formed on the Paper Making Machine via a Dandy Roller, the "Mark " is just a Image of what is designed.

        All you can do is print a Image using a Transparent White Tint !!!


        Regards, Alois
        Thanks for your suggestion. Just to know is there any ink supplier who can provide WATERMARK ink.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ponnapati123 View Post

          Thanks for your suggestion. Just to know is there any ink supplier who can provide WATERMARK ink.
          One more time: no.

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          • #6
            ponnapati123,


            Again for the "Third Time" no such Ink exists, Water Marks are only used in "Expensive Letter Stationery " such as Basildon Bond !

            Next "Hold" a sheet of this expensive A4 Letter Paper to the Light ..... and you will see the "Water Mark" saying - Basildon Bond.

            Do you understand now ?


            Regards, Alois

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Alois Senefelder View Post
              ponnapati123,


              Again for the "Third Time" no such Ink exists, Water Marks are only used in "Expensive Letter Stationery " such as Basildon Bond !

              Next "Hold" a sheet of this expensive A4 Letter Paper to the Light ..... and you will see the "Water Mark" saying - Basildon Bond.

              Do you understand now ?


              Regards, Alois
              Thanks, I understood

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              • #8
                Seen this done one time, offset. What you do is lightly tint the entire sheet, except of course the watermark, so basically your printing a full bleed all four sides. No special ink but I'd use laser offset ink it has drier so the sheet can be run in a digital machine.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by HPC View Post
                  Seen this done one time, offset. What you do is lightly tint the entire sheet, except of course the watermark, so basically your printing a full bleed all four sides. No special ink but I'd use laser offset ink it has drier so the sheet can be run in a digital machine.
                  That's a good idea. I wonder what would happen if you tried that process in reverse and instead of tinting the entire sheet, just use a slight tint for printing the mark.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by HPC View Post
                    Seen this done one time, offset. What you do is lightly tint the entire sheet, except of course the watermark, so basically your printing a full bleed all four sides. No special ink but I'd use laser offset ink it has drier so the sheet can be run in a digital machine.
                    Thanks, Really its a good idea. Our client wants to print on preprinted WATERMARK sheet from the paper mill and during offset printing client wants to place a logo in cetain position. So when we print it looks entrie paper with paper mill watermark and some portion with client logo. So if we do tint for full sheet I think exisiting watermark from paper mill will go disappear. We will try using ting only the particular position where client wants the artificial watermark logo.

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                    • #11
                      You can get a custom water mark paper made, with the logo of the customer centered for 8.5x11 finished. If your paper supplier doesn't offer it I will give you my suppliers contact.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bill kahny View Post
                        You can get a custom water mark paper made, with the logo of the customer centered for 8.5x11 finished. If your paper supplier doesn't offer it I will give you my suppliers contact.
                        The client requirement is custom water mark which may vary from kind to kind. So if we did pre water mark from paper supplier and then client changes the design then it may incur huge losses. That is the reason we are looking for the alternate method to print water mark during offset process

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                        • #13
                          Hello ponnapati123,


                          Enlightenment re WATER MARKS !


                          Visit - Neenah Paper Inc and view their resources page, "Watermarks"


                          Hopefully, the information provided --- will STOP you going round in circles !!!!!!


                          Regards, Alois

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                          • #14
                            one time we faked a watermark that turned out pretty decent. Took a bit of press proofing where you try something and let it dry overnight, then evaluate the results. The final version that went into production was a a very small amount (like a half ounce per pound) mix of 877 silver to gloss overprint varnish.

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                            • #15
                              This may be obvious, but an imitation of a watermark must be printed on both the front and the back side of the sheet, in register.
                              The back side must be a mirrored.

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