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    I need to place a 1.6 PDF with transparency into Quark. Can anyone help me?
    Joe
    OS: Mac OS X 10.10.2 - RIP: Prinergy Connect 6.1 - CTP: Luscher XPose! 160 (2)

  • #2
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    Good try Joe, but I don't think you'll find an answer to that query anyplace.

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    • #3
      Re: Help with Quark

      You gotta give me credit. I'm persistent.
      Joe
      OS: Mac OS X 10.10.2 - RIP: Prinergy Connect 6.1 - CTP: Luscher XPose! 160 (2)

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      • #4
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        I'd give ya a gold star for effort, but no idea how to on this site.

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        • #5
          Re: Help with Quark

          Never had an issue here with 1.6 PDF in Quark. What exactly is the problem you are seeing?

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          • #6
            Re: Help with Quark

            Can't place it into a Quark document.
            Joe
            OS: Mac OS X 10.10.2 - RIP: Prinergy Connect 6.1 - CTP: Luscher XPose! 160 (2)

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            • #7
              Re: Help with Quark

              > {quote:title=rmstorm wrote:}{quote}
              > Never had an issue here with 1.6 PDF in Quark. What exactly is the problem you are seeing?
              Joe, you have finally found The Holy Grail

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              • #8
                Re: Help with Quark

                > {quote:title=doubting_thomas wrote:}{quote}
                > > {quote:title=rmstorm wrote:}{quote}
                > > Never had an issue here with 1.6 PDF in Quark. What exactly is the problem you are seeing?
                > Joe, you have finally found The Holy Grail
                LOL...we'll see about that!
                Joe
                OS: Mac OS X 10.10.2 - RIP: Prinergy Connect 6.1 - CTP: Luscher XPose! 160 (2)

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                • #9
                  Re: Help with Quark

                  am i allowed to say indesign in a quack forum?

                  i'm not actually SAYING indesign - i'm just asking if I CAN say indesign

                  if I COULD say indesign then I might reply with something like - do it in indesign....

                  lol@joe....dont change man - never ever change.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Help with Quark

                    You may be able to place it but you wont get any transparency in your output file.
                    Quark will flatten it when it makes it's internal PS file before using the JAWS library to convert it into PDF.
                    Regards, John
                    Technical Manager - RR Donnelley

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                    • #11
                      Re: Help with Quark

                      exactly.

                      the answer to the question is it wont work

                      you could try to pdf out of indy to a 1.3, or pdf out of acrobat again to a 1.3, but it will all be flattened and ruined (potentially)

                      but then he knows that anyway - dontya mate!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Help with Quark

                        Yes, I agree, that the transparency will be flattened at some point with a PDF 1.6 placed in Quark. But so will a PDF 1.6 out of InDesign or Acrobat that eventually hits a RIP. And the printed piece, post RIP, will look the same regardless which of the 3 programs you choose to use. Of course, one has to be careful about when and how one flattens transparency. But the original quesetion was can PDF 1.6 placed in Quark and the answer is yes!

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                        • #13
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                          not strictly true

                          new versions of rips have the pdf print engine and will render/rip it correctly

                          i just pdf'd from illy cs3 - 1.6 - would not import into quack 7.3

                          maybe i'll distill it then place it in - which will possibly screw up the transparency anyway - so the question is - a 1.6 with transparency

                          and if you can - quack only uses postscript so you cant even keep the transparency live to the new rip/pdf print engine

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                          • #14
                            Re: Help with Quark

                            At the end of the day, the new RIPs with PDF Print Engine are still flattening transparency.

                            Again, PDF 1.6 can be placed in Quark. It is not always necessary or even ideal so workarounds are required particularly as you note with how Quark handles transparency.

                            So we can agree that Quark/PDF 1.6 may not the best solution but I stress the final printed piece will look the same - if you do it right.

                            Edited by: Randy on Aug 31, 2007 12:15 PM

                            Edited by: Randy on Aug 31, 2007 12:21 PM

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                            • #15
                              Re: Help with Quark

                              Any PDF that is above 1.3 is iffy with Quark. You may be able to place it...you may not. In my experience I cannot place any PDF that has been exported from InDesign. Also in my experience you cannot output correctly if you do get a PDF into Quark that contains transparency. I have a customer that has figured out a way to place a PDF with transparency into a Quark document. They don't display or print correctly but they do show an image of sorts on the page and they are listed in the links. The problem is that he is supplied these PDF's with transparency, has no control over how they are sent to him, has no knowledge of how to fix them, and then expects us (the printer) to fix them so they print correctly. Oh yeah, he doesn't want to be charged for this either because Quark told him he could place PDF's into his document. The silence from Quark over this issue is deafening.
                              Joe
                              OS: Mac OS X 10.10.2 - RIP: Prinergy Connect 6.1 - CTP: Luscher XPose! 160 (2)

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