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Note that Oris has absolutely zero presence in the large format inkjet industry. It's far from your best choice for what you're trying to do. The extent to which you can profile a printer in Oris is very limited as it's only to profile a machine to set it up as a proofer. If you're serious...

No, no, no... This is a misconception and just not true. I've got tons of clients who work in this market, and while it's just as true in this market as in any other that all the rules of color and reproduction apply, it's also true that it's possible to please clients in this market. It's...

Good points... When I did fine art, I had the images shot as 4x5's by a guy in Dallas and the scanned them on a Howtek 8000. (I loved that thing; wish I still had it.) Of course that was back before the days of true digital capture. Pretty much these days anyone serious about reproducing...

The term giclée actually has kind of an interesting history, but the short version is that it was originally used when large-format inkjet printing was in its infancy and Nash Productions wanted a term for their prints that sounded more exotic and high-tone than merely inkjet. They settled on...

Not as of yet, although I think one's on the way. The OP said hybrid and/or flatbed though. I'm also not sure how they are in Europe, if at all. But I'd still at least do the homework on them. It's a good group and they're solid machines. Mike

I'd suggest you hire someone to come and train you. I'm biased, of course, since that's what I do. And it will cost you money, of course. But it will cost you less money in the end and you'll get a quicker, better grasp of what you want to know by hiring someone who knows what they're talking...

Vanguard should be on your list.

Well, I'm a consultant and it doesn't much suit my interests. I think Idealliance would be pretty damned happy in fact if I'd just shut up and go away. But then my approach to consultancy has always been to provide real value and actually solve problems. Mike

Yeah, understood. And believe me, over the years, I've wrestled back and forth many times with the idea of just paying them their blood money, and becoming a three-day "G7 Expert." I'd probably in fact have made a lot more money over the years if I had. And I've done some pretty exhaustive...

Interesting, and I'd say pertinent question. I actually grew up in litho before the days of standards and specifications, and we used to work very hard to be the best printer in not just Dallas, or Texas, or the US, but the world. And to this day I look back and think that maybe for a period of...

I can help. To get to where you need to be, I'd suggest someone who can come to you and train you on what you need to know in your environment. Which, by happy coincidence, is a service I provide. Yes, there is a lot of information available online, but a lot of it is wrong. And a lot of it...

Dot pattern is definitely a profileable (ICC profileable) aspect of machine state. If you want to use a dot pattern for which you have no existing complete media profiles -- including ICC -- then you have to complete the process. --Crash Davis You can think of it that way, and it might even...

Note that the term "profile" in this industry has somewhat of dual meanings. It can either mean a media profile, or it can mean an ICC profile. A media profile defines a device printing in a certain state. That state will typically include media white point, single channel chroma values and ink...

Well, what it sounds like is happening is that you're doing a calibration perhaps in a wrong section or with a technique for making an entirely new media profile. If all you're doing is a "recalibration" then you should be working within a particular media profile and you should not be able to...

I agree completely about Adobe. Here in the US, the equivalent of Forgra 39 is GRACoL 2006. And many of the evangelists of G7 in large format -- a group which most emphatically does not include me -- sing its praises and encourage clients to set it as their incoming CMYK space in their RIP's...

Actually, it wouldn't explain that. Light colors are part of their main color channel with their 'splits' determined by your particular printer profile. Light black and light light black are part of the black channel, light magenta is part of the magenta channel, and light cyan is part of the...

Well since this has fired up again, I'll just add two cents having read along with some interest but not yet weighed in. To me, it seems like a futile effort. I downloaded the thing and had a look awhile back, and yes, it's a big CMYK space. But... So? As far as I can see, it doesn't define...

Curious if you could share the L*a*b* value that gets that particular combination.

Alith Just to amplify, that's not the reason. It's more like a side benefit of doing it right from conception. The problem with the old CMYK values is that, for the very reasons Dov describes, they are useless. You may have gotten results you like on one or more colors, but if you did, that...

Michael, In large format inkjet, you can't do anything without plenty of work tables. Just about everything produced needs to be rolled out on a table for some type of hand finishing. Mike Adams Correct Color