JG3000s
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Hi all,
I've been having some trouble with a PDF/X-4 file I ripped in Onyx Thrive 22.
It's set up in Illustrator 28.5 and it features a transparent CMYK psd file (U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2 profile) which is placed twice. One time at 100% with some parts at 0% opacity, and another time in the background at 50% opacity.
There is also a masked vector graphic that is set to 10% opacity underneath the background raster.
So quite a lot of transparency. You can see the transparency flattener previews in my screenshots.
There are also spot colors but they are all 100% opacity and above the transparent parts in text or vector objects.
The background black is 60C-50M-50Y-100K.
In the next screenshot you can see how this file rips in Onyx. The middle image is how it looks on screen in Illustrator. Top image is the PDF/X-4 with the native transparency. I'm getting a blue-green color cast on the background image.
Just for contrast I saved a PDF/X-3 which of course flattened out the file before it was sent to Onyx. The color shifts more to the yellow-brown in this case.
Now to the elephant in the room here - my shop is only just now learning about linearizing and does not regularly calibrate the media.
So I need to get this done, but will I have the right to expect my PDF/X-4 to rip and look like the middle image seen in Illustrator once I do so?
The screenshots are taken off an iMac 2023 machine that has only been calibrated through the built-in ColorSync.
My Illustrator color settings are on North America General Purpose 2, meaning my CMYK profile is U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2 and the rendering intent is Relative Colorimetric with Black Point Compensation on.
In Onyx my QuickSet is set to use U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2 for the profile and to use the embedded profile when available. Rendering intent is also Relative Colorimetric with Black Point Compensation on.
Looking at my PDF/X-4 in Acrobat I see that my Total Area Coverage is over 260% in some places and all the way to 290% where the black is vector.
Would linearizing help with this, and thus help with the color cast I'm getting?
Please let me know if you have any thoughts on this, I appreciate it.
I've been having some trouble with a PDF/X-4 file I ripped in Onyx Thrive 22.
It's set up in Illustrator 28.5 and it features a transparent CMYK psd file (U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2 profile) which is placed twice. One time at 100% with some parts at 0% opacity, and another time in the background at 50% opacity.
There is also a masked vector graphic that is set to 10% opacity underneath the background raster.
So quite a lot of transparency. You can see the transparency flattener previews in my screenshots.
There are also spot colors but they are all 100% opacity and above the transparent parts in text or vector objects.
The background black is 60C-50M-50Y-100K.
In the next screenshot you can see how this file rips in Onyx. The middle image is how it looks on screen in Illustrator. Top image is the PDF/X-4 with the native transparency. I'm getting a blue-green color cast on the background image.
Just for contrast I saved a PDF/X-3 which of course flattened out the file before it was sent to Onyx. The color shifts more to the yellow-brown in this case.
Now to the elephant in the room here - my shop is only just now learning about linearizing and does not regularly calibrate the media.
So I need to get this done, but will I have the right to expect my PDF/X-4 to rip and look like the middle image seen in Illustrator once I do so?
The screenshots are taken off an iMac 2023 machine that has only been calibrated through the built-in ColorSync.
My Illustrator color settings are on North America General Purpose 2, meaning my CMYK profile is U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2 and the rendering intent is Relative Colorimetric with Black Point Compensation on.
In Onyx my QuickSet is set to use U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2 for the profile and to use the embedded profile when available. Rendering intent is also Relative Colorimetric with Black Point Compensation on.
Looking at my PDF/X-4 in Acrobat I see that my Total Area Coverage is over 260% in some places and all the way to 290% where the black is vector.
Would linearizing help with this, and thus help with the color cast I'm getting?
Please let me know if you have any thoughts on this, I appreciate it.
