Envelope Printing

spcink

Member
We just brought a Xante Enpress in house. I'm currently setting it up in EFI PACE. What are the real world speeds for this? Do you use PACE (or anyone reading this have the Xante and PACE)?
I'm curious what others have used for the real world speeds and "impression" charges.

thanks
James,

I've never heard of EFI PACE.

As far as speed is concerned, I've hit 4500 per hour running #10 regular envelopes with no problems on our Impressia which is the previous version of the EnPress.

With that said, I've had few jobs with no problems. Mostly jamming issues. Sometimes print quality or color issues.

Also, it depends on coverage. If you have an envelope with a large solid, you have to slow it down. There are adjustments that can be made so as to not slow it down, but it is a complicated process.

I am the operator so I don't have much information on impression charges.
 

jamest

New member
James,

I've never heard of EFI PACE.

As far as speed is concerned, I've hit 4500 per hour running #10 regular envelopes with no problems on our Impressia which is the previous version of the EnPress.

With that said, I've had few jobs with no problems. Mostly jamming issues. Sometimes print quality or color issues.

Also, it depends on coverage. If you have an envelope with a large solid, you have to slow it down. There are adjustments that can be made so as to not slow it down, but it is a complicated process.

I am the operator so I don't have much information on impression charges.
What speeds do you get on booklet or catalog envelopes(9x12 or 10x13)?
 

Possumgal

Well-known member
The Impressia will give you a cost on the jobs it's printing if you know where to look. Print cost on a #10 with just the return address and maybe a logo runs $.01 per piece on my machine. Color and black only. On catalog envelopes I can't help. We never could run them on our machine without major creases. Yes, we know about adjusting the fuser for them, and whatever else was suggested but it made no difference. We just gave up.
 

agmfan3

Well-known member
The Impressia will give you a cost on the jobs it's printing if you know where to look. Print cost on a #10 with just the return address and maybe a logo runs $.01 per piece on my machine. Color and black only. On catalog envelopes I can't help. We never could run them on our machine without major creases. Yes, we know about adjusting the fuser for them, and whatever else was suggested but it made no difference. We just gave up.
ME TOO!!!!!! I refuse to even try. I can run 6x9 but no on the larger 10x13 etc. Just causes me to say "bad" words and then I get in trouble.
 

Possumgal

Well-known member
ME TOO!!!!!! I refuse to even try. I can run 6x9 but no on the larger 10x13 etc. Just causes me to say "bad" words and then I get in trouble.
Sorry for your bad luck, but relieved to see your post. Anywhere we tried to get help, we were told to adjust the fuser, and then told "it works fine for me." Made us feel like we were the only ones.
 

agmfan3

Well-known member
You are not alone. I don't have much trouble from the Impressia, I have always had good luck with support also. But I know it's limitations and big envelopes just cause it problems.
 

wordcenter

Member
You are not alone. I don't have much trouble from the Impressia, I have always had good luck with support also. But I know it's limitations and big envelopes just cause it problems.
On the Impressia: We adjust the fuser and set envelope to HEAVY. We often run short edge feed too. Bottom line is, they usually don't crease, but they are VERT SLOW!! When we got out Canon C650 printer (not an envelope printer), found we could print 9x12's like a breeze from it, and have moved them over to the Canon. Comparable on b/w printing, more expensive on color, BUT the time and aggravation factors more than make up for it.
 

camasprinter

Well-known member
We have a new EnPress and love it so far. We have had Oki941C's also and they were OK. You need good p=operating skills and be prepared to add whatever baling wire as needed. They are machines that need to have skilled eyes working.
Those with feeding issues are you running the envelopes "upside down and backwards" like they tell you to?
Makes all the difference in the world. Play with settings, we're running #10's at 78 per minute

What's with the using Ricoh toner 'SPCINK" ? Are the cartridges not chipped so they actually work in a Xante?
 

Rick

Registered Users
Oh Xante.

The stories I have.

It is simple machine that has made life extremely complicated.

I have been fortunate enough to learn a lot about this machine due to the engine being a Ricoh SP C821DN re-branded.

Also, because it's a Ricoh, I've been able to cut our consumable cost practically in half.

To answer the first question, do I like our printer. No.

However, there really is no other options at that price point.

We just looked at a machine powered by the Memjet Mach6.
We weren't exactly wowed by the quality or the process itself.
we just aquired a ricoh psi LM3655 and are looking for the best place to buy the chips and toner plus other supplies to help keep costs down...please advise...TIA
 

impodave

Member
We have the Impressia with Enterprise feeder here. No one else here liked running it, because there are instances where you might have to babysit it a little. I have run #6.75 up to 9x12 catalogs and booklets. Had to replace the first drum ( black ) after 240K impressions a couple of weeks ago. With the color management options in iQueue one can match a particular spot reasonably well, if not exactly. It helps a lot if you've operated small offset equipment printing small envelopes back in the day and have a decent understanding of color theory ...
 
We use a Konica Minolta AccurioPress C6085 and it does OK with standard envelope sizes (No. 9 & 10) although the No. 10s often have a wrinkle or crease. I haven't found any affordable machine that did a great job. A lot of factors play into the success you will have on any device - the quality of the envelope, settings on the printer, how much patience you have ... We had to open the flaps on an odd sized envelope but on our normal envelopes if we load them with the flap facing out (towards you when you load) it does the best. Drawback is having to swap out fusers unless you can have a machine dedicated only to envelopes. We had an Xante. I hated that thing. I have little patience anyway, and that just drove me mad.
 

kdw75

Well-known member
What sizes are you able to get through your 7210? We have a 7200x and it's hit and miss. 9x12 and 10x13 run great but smaller sizes not so much.
We regularly run #10, A-7, A-6, A-2 and the larger 9x12 and 10x13 sizes. The biggest complaint is that is slightly refolds the #10s towards the tail. Pretty slight, but it is there. Runs the "A" sizes great, but we open all, but the A-7s.

On the 9x12 and 10x13s we use the vacuum feed trays, but on everything else we use the top bypass tray.
 

Shawnd

Well-known member
Top bypass ehh? That would drive me nuts keeping that fed, how many #10's can you fit in that?
 

BigE1968

Member
(We've been through Oki and Xante and they are junk)

Xante has been trying to sell us a machine for quite a while. Why do you consider them junk? Just curious. Thank You.

Also, has anyone used a Mach 6 printer or any other envelope printer from NeoPost?
We use a Neopost envelope printer. For short run colour it is perfectly acceptable as long as the envelopes stay drop, being inkjet the smallest spot of water will make the ink run. We use it mainly for mailing work and we like it very much. We always explain to the client that the ink will always appear flat due to the process used.
 

ICON

New member
We have had a Xante Enpress a few months now. We had some issues fusing in the beginning, it seems that the toner would not completely fuse at high speeds. They sent us a new fuser and it's been working great for a few months. Now we are starting to see some of the fusing issues again. Does anyone else have similar issues and or a fix?
 

idahodian

Member
I've had the Risco Priport way in the past, Okidata C9650 with the Straight Shooter feeder, neopost AS950, now run all smaller than 9 x 12 on the iJet Classic I think that's what the call it. We got a Xerox 3100 and started printing all larger on it, great quality. The iJet works well on the smaller sizes, we can usually load and walk away just coming back to fill the feeder or the printed envelopes. The support is better than Neopost/Quadient, we are doing the maintenance and they will walk us through any issues. we get all the supplies from Quadient, since we are government and get that pricing. Hated the Okidata, supplies very expensive and needed lots of babysitting. No machine is perfect, you just need to know the tricks to keep it happy and running well.
 

Shawnd

Well-known member
We regularly run #10, A-7, A-6, A-2 and the larger 9x12 and 10x13 sizes. The biggest complaint is that is slightly refolds the #10s towards the tail. Pretty slight, but it is there. Runs the "A" sizes great, but we open all, but the A-7s.

On the 9x12 and 10x13s we use the vacuum feed trays, but on everything else we use the top bypass tray.
Can you do a video of your 7200 running #10's from the top bypass?
 

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