FUJI Revoria press pc1120 - Texture toner?

[amatijevic]

Hi everybody,

We got this year FUJI Revoria PC1120, and with it we got all special toners, along with Texture toner. Regarding that one, did someone worked with it? I looked and looked and looked online, didnt find how to use it, how finished product looks like, really nothing. Its like a mistery to us .
Did someone had experience with that toner? I have like a bunch of questions...Do i put it as first or last toner, how to prepare file for usage of that toner (other special colours must be named Clear, Gold, Pink etc...how to call this?), with what toner do i combine it (maybe Clear?).
I know that it should make effect similar to embossing, but dont have a clue how it looks like. Also looked on google and stuff..nothing.

Thank you in advance!

Aleksandar

 

[G5MacMan]

Did u get it off the back of a Truck? hard to believe that the company you purchased from could not answer the simple questions.

 

[gotCMYK?]

Hi Aleksandar,

The Texture (TX) toner is used with textured papers that have rough/uneven surfaces. Without the TX toner, the printing would be uneven and spotty in sections where the toner cannot cover evenly the surface of the paper.

The TX module/cartridge can only be used in the overlay (position on the right). You will need to make special paper print settings for those papers that will use TX toner. When you use TX toner you won't be charged (you shouldn't be charged) as a specialty color, because it aids the CMYK printing. Wherever you print CMYK, TX will also print in the same spot when the setting is turned on. This is why it's not charged like a specialty color.

I'm attaching an image, the left side is printing without TX. The right side is printing with TX.
In Japan this paper is like a crocodile skin, so it's very textured and uneven.

Clear toner on the other hand, is a spot color, like Gold, Silver, Pink or White. It will/should have its own click charge in addition to color. It will take some experimentation to find which papers are best suited for which Specialty toners, but that's the fun part.

We generally keep:
TX, Clear and Pink on the Overlay position (station 1).
Silver, Gold and White on the Underlay position (station 6)

Clear toner, if you look very closely is a very light yellowish color. It's not truly clear. But it gives a good shine when you set the data up properly.

For using Gold and Silver, we've found that light CMY values tend to provide the best results. But a lot of it is trial and error.

Hope this helps. Sorry if it's confusing, I'm not used to explaining this in English.

Cheers.

 

[amatijevic]

Hi Aleksandar,

The Texture (TX) toner is used with textured papers that have rough/uneven surfaces. Without the TX toner, the printing would be uneven and spotty in sections where the toner cannot cover evenly the surface of the paper.

The TX module/cartridge can only be used in the overlay (position on the right). You will need to make special paper print settings for those papers that will use TX toner. When you use TX toner you won't be charged (you shouldn't be charged) as a specialty color, because it aids the CMYK printing. Wherever you print CMYK, TX will also print in the same spot when the setting is turned on. This is why it's not charged like a specialty color.

I'm attaching an image, the left side is printing without TX. The right side is printing with TX.
In Japan this paper is like a crocodile skin, so it's very textured and uneven.

Clear toner on the other hand, is a spot color, like Gold, Silver, Pink or White. It will/should have its own click charge in addition to color. It will take some experimentation to find which papers are best suited for which Specialty toners, but that's the fun part.

We generally keep:
TX, Clear and Pink on the Overlay position (station 1).
Silver, Gold and White on the Underlay position (station 6)

Clear toner, if you look very closely is a very light yellowish color. It's not truly clear. But it gives a good shine when you set the data up properly.

For using Gold and Silver, we've found that light CMY values tend to provide the best results. But a lot of it is trial and error.

Hope this helps. Sorry if it's confusing, I'm not used to explaining this in English.

Cheers.

Hi,

thank you verry much, i appreciate you took your time to write detailed explanation, now its much clearer. I thought that for embossed papers its enough to put in paper stock that its embossed, and i also printed on those papers with no problems, when i finish adjusting image transfer it looks great (to get the right amount of power on that kind of paper). But i guess with really complicated and deep embossed paper this is must have option, the TX toner. Didnt had really much of structured papers for print.

And what setting should i put when making special paper input, is it on computer for paper stocks or in Fiery software?

No problem, your english is fine, mine is average, i work in Netherland but im from Serbia, so imagine that
We are communicating perfectly!

 

[amatijevic]

Did u get it off the back of a Truck? hard to believe that the company you purchased from could not answer the simple questions.

Oh its a complicated story, its hard getting answers from them, so tried this way, and had success

 

[gotCMYK?]

Hi,

thank you verry much, i appreciate you took your time to write detailed explanation, now its much clearer. I thought that for embossed papers its enough to put in paper stock that its embossed, and i also printed on those papers with no problems, when i finish adjusting image transfer it looks great (to get the right amount of power on that kind of paper). But i guess with really complicated and deep embossed paper this is must have option, the TX toner. Didnt had really much of structured papers for print.

And what setting should i put when making special paper input, is it on computer for paper stocks or in Fiery software?

No problem, your english is fine, mine is average, i work in Netherland but im from Serbia, so imagine that
We are communicating perfectly!

Some embossed papers print fine without the TX toner. It's the really embossed ones that don't always print well. For those papers TX is very effective! Because we use lots of different textured papers, we've made individual settings for each on the profile database.

For using TX there are specific settings in the print server. Unfortunately we don't use Fiery in Japan, Fujifilm has their own software which is used domestically. But, give me about 9 hours and I'll take some pictures/translate the settings and send a reply from work tomorrow.

 

[amatijevic]

Some embossed papers print fine without the TX toner. It's the really embossed ones that don't always print well. For those papers TX is very effective! Because we use lots of different textured papers, we've made individual settings for each on the profile database.

For using TX there are specific settings in the print server. Unfortunately we don't use Fiery in Japan, Fujifilm has their own software which is used domestically. But, give me about 9 hours and I'll take some pictures/translate the settings and send a reply from work tomorrow.

Wow great, thank you. Ofcourse when you have time, its not urgent, i dont have anything that needs to be printed on dificult papers at the moment, so anytime you grab a chance send it so i can figure it out here also. Thanks again!!!

 

[chapfartak]

Hi Aleksandar! The Texture (TX) toner works to smooth printing on textured or uneven surfaces, ensuring uniform coverage. It’s typically used in the overlay position and doesn’t act as a specialty toner. Wherever CMYK prints, TX enhances it, with no extra charge. Experiment with textured papers and paper settings to optimize results. Specialty toners like Clear, Gold, and Pink require specific naming in your file, but TX operates differently, aiding standard printing rather than acting as a standalone layer

 

[amatijevic]

Hi Aleksandar! The Texture (TX) toner works to smooth printing on textured or uneven surfaces, ensuring uniform coverage. It’s typically used in the overlay position and doesn’t act as a specialty toner. Wherever CMYK prints, TX enhances it, with no extra charge. Experiment with textured papers and paper settings to optimize results. Specialty toners like Clear, Gold, and Pink require specific naming in your file, but TX operates differently, aiding standard printing rather than acting as a standalone layer

Hi! Thanks for explanation, just one more thing on my mind...i should somehow tell the machine that textured paper is in machine so he knows that he should use the TX toner? I guess only on paper stock to add that paper is Embossed, that way it will know toner should be used?

 

[hoongz14]

Hi Aleksandar! The Texture (TX) toner works to smooth printing on textured or uneven surfaces, ensuring uniform coverage. It’s typically used in the overlay position and doesn’t act as a specialty toner. Wherever CMYK prints, TX enhances it, with no extra charge. Experiment with textured papers and paper settings to optimize results. Specialty toners like Clear, Gold, and Pink require specific naming in your file, but TX operates differently, aiding standard printing rather than acting as a standalone layer

You mean you don’t need to pay for the textured toner?

 

[chapfartak]

You mean you don’t need to pay for the textured toner?

From my experience, no, you don’t need to pay extra for the Texture (TX) toner. It’s built into the system to work with CMYK automatically, enhancing the print on textured or uneven papers. I’ve worked on projects where the TX toner made a significant difference on heavily embossed papers, ensuring smooth, consistent coverage. Unlike specialty toners like Clear or Gold, which are charged separately, TX operates as part of the standard process without adding extra costs. It’s really a lifesaver for tricky surfaces!

 

[joshlindsay]

From my experience, no, you don’t need to pay extra for the Texture (TX) toner. It’s built into the system to work with CMYK automatically, enhancing the print on textured or uneven papers. I’ve worked on projects where the TX toner made a significant difference on heavily embossed papers, ensuring smooth, consistent coverage. Unlike specialty toners like Clear or Gold, which are charged separately, TX operates as part of the standard process without adding extra costs. It’s really a lifesaver for tricky surfaces!

So Xerox will supply you the TX cartridges included in your click as per CMYK rather than White/Gold/Silver/Clear/Pink where you need to buy them yourself?

 

[hoongz14]

From my experience, no, you don’t need to pay extra for the Texture (TX) toner. It’s built into the system to work with CMYK automatically, enhancing the print on textured or uneven papers. I’ve worked on projects where the TX toner made a significant difference on heavily embossed papers, ensuring smooth, consistent coverage. Unlike specialty toners like Clear or Gold, which are charged separately, TX operates as part of the standard process without adding extra costs. It’s really a lifesaver for tricky surfaces!

Are you an actual PC1120 user? Cause in Malaysia, we need to pay for the textured toner just like any specialty toner