Looking for new digital press

[buckeyewta]

We are looking to add another digital press and are have several options to chose from. We need something that will do up to 80 page booklets on 12x18 80# gloss text with 80# cover.
Estimated monthly volume is 30-50 thousand clicks.

Option #1
New Xerox C75 with Bustled Fiery, Light Production Finisher, and Oversized High Cap. $36,000

Option #2
New Xerox C75 with Bustled Fiery, Stacker tray only, and Oversized High Cap $23,000
All finishing would be done offline. We would need to purchase offline equipment

Option #2
Used Xerox 700 with Fiery, Light Production finisher, Oversized High Cap. 650 K on meter. $18,000


Anybody have any experience with any of these machines?

 

[buckeyewta]

Nobody have an opinion?

 

[Brett S]

No clue on C75 but the 700 is a great machine. We run one with an external creo rip (external fiery would work as well) and a single high capacity tray. High cap tray is a must. All of our finishing equipment on the color is offline. Great qualtity but can be pretty slow on anything above 80# cover. Not a deal breaker for us just an fyi for you.

 

[arossetti]

You essential are comparing the same printer with different options and asking us which one is better for the price. We cannot help you with that because we have no idea about your workflow and typical job. The difference of the light production finisher, the difference between a internal and external server, the difference between the IOT software updates of the C75 vs 700. These are all things that are changing the price but we don't know what advantages they have to your environment.

 

[Megan.servicesupplies]

Hi we got Xerox 700 Digital Color Press 600K copies only with Booklet Maker for only $17,000. email me @ [email protected] or give me a call 702-789-7149.

Thanks
Megan

 

[buckeyewta]

We are leaning towards the 242. It has a higher cost per page but is much less upfront. It is far from the latest and greatest but will easily meat our needs.

 

[onwsk8r]

30-50k clicks on a 242 will make it break fairly frequently so get a good service agreement
700's are great as long as you don't need things to print in register and you don't mind ginormous color shifts over a run as well as lots of walking.

Probably a smarter option would be a legit bookletmaker from ebay - something like an MBM or Horizon - because then you don't have to pay for a new bookletmaker every time you buy a machine (although 2 collators might set you back).

Also IIRC the light production finisher won't do 80pp booklets on 80# text - only on 20#. Also you can't lie to it or it will begin to have strange problems (not that I'd ever do something like that). On the thicker booklets, a professional bookletmaker will make a much higher quality than an inline.

Oh also, unless you get an inserter, you'll have to wait for the fuser to warm up and cool down for each one. I've never had good luck running preprinted covers and lying to the machine about how thick they are. At least on a Smearox.

 

[buckeyewta]

We signed a deal yesterday on a 550 with a light production finisher.