problem with light screens on platestream

hondarr9

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Hello, At our shop we have a plate stream xc polyester plate setter. Since day one we have had a problem with light screens under 5%. they appear to be on the plate but one side looks slightly lighter. When you put the plate on press (Ryobi 3304ha) the screen on the light side all but disappears. I have had many service calls to Xpedx and Printware, they cant seem to fix it, and dont really acknowledge it as the major problem that it is. Anyone else had or scene this problem? Thanks!
 
We have had this issue before.

If I recall, I called Platestream and they bumped up the laser power a bit, and that helped enormously...BUT...It does tend to still drop dots under 5% every now and then.

It may be part chemistry also. I have noticed that the chemistry does not last very long...we usually end up dumping it every week.

Also, how often do you calibrate your Platestream?
 
We dont calibrate very often however Xpedx was just here not even a month ago for abour 6 hours going over everything still no change. Chemistry I know has to be fresh. Very expensive to change once a week though. They did change the image power but only seemed to mask the problem because after that a 5% dot was more like 8-9%. I had a DPM 2340 before this and was much better at making screens, but had other drawbacks.
 
What is the specification for your setup? Is it warranted to image a 5%-1% dot?
If it is warranted to do so then Xpedx should be camping out at your shop until the device is in spec.
If that is not the spec, then you may need to consider a hybrid AM (a.k.a. XM) screening solution to recover the tones you are losing.

best, gordon p
 
According to Mitsubishi, the minimum dot size on DigiPlate is 3-97% on the FRm-175. From my experience, 5-95% is the best achievable dot. I've never seen a dot under 5% hold consistently.
 
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UPDATE: Printware saw this post and just called me! They say they want to get to the bottom of this. I will let you know. Impressive that they called!
 
also, to clarify something. I said I had numerous calls to Xpedx and Printware about this problem. The calls to Printware were made by Xpedx and not me directly. So I actually had no dealing with Printware myself until now.
 
We've had the same issue from time to time. Although we only change chemistry every 4 to 5 weeks or so. We also run 175 lpi. I am wondering what Printware ended up doing for you.
 
No not yet. They talked with Xpedx and they called me to see what was going on, but no one has showed up hear yet....
 
problem with light screens on platestream

My boss is contemplating dropping our maintenance contract on the machine, since we have not used it enough to justify it, and my question is - how long do the lasers and other expensive parts usually last on these machines when used in a low volume environment? Can we expect a failure in the next year or two?

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Well almost 6 weeks since I first heard from Printware and Xpedex, still no one has showed up here to look at it. Still having big problems. Printed a 25% screen across a 11 x 17 sheet yesterday and it looked like it faded into a 5% screen on one side. Driving pressman nuts!
 
We worked with silver master since the 80's so I feel your pain. Try changing the screen angle. Dont use 0 or 90 since they are right angles and can clip or miss dots. Check your rip and see what other angles you have available. Look for 15, 22 or 75. Run only one plate through at a time, the length and take up of the shot can affect the output. Add length to the front and tail of the shot. Use your current 11 x 17 shot, find the spot it starts to change dot and add the remaining length to your job setup. by the time the film lsows down and the dot gets missed up it may be past the point you need to get a working shot
 
oh... it looks like dusty optics in case the spinner of that machine has a multifacet mirror.
Screen and AGFA Palladio had the same issue with Lithostar plates.

If polyplate looks good after processor, there is no guarranty of good plate behaviour on press in case of dirty optics.
 
Bad screens still!

Bad screens still!

Did Printware get you sorted???
no. Never followed through. As a matter of fact we got fed up today and went to another shop with the same unit and got plates for a job well were running and having no luck. Night and Day difference. Job came out beautiful and set up quickly. I think we've had a lemon from day 1!
 
   
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