Ricoh 7500 5th Color

[CreoleCuisine]

My Ricoh 7500 has Gold, Pink and White 5th Colors.
I would like to print reverse business cards - black card with white and gold toner.
How do I set up the design file having 2 specialty colors?

Also, how do I setup the Fiery for printing one spot color at a time?
The colors do not touch, just text on a business card.

 

[namelessentity]

We have a Xerox Iridesse and they provided a book with design guidelines for all the additional toner options. I'd suggest reaching out to your sales team for the same.

 

[AJB123]

Because you can only have one "special" color loaded at a time, you will need to have two different files, one that has the gold only and one that has the white only. Then you will need to run the sheet through twice, once for each color. We usually have a main file built so that each color is on it's own layer. Then we export for the color we need with only that layer turned on. In your case you'd need to export one file for the gold and one file for the white. Then in the fiery under the job's properties go to specialty colors section and you want to check the box that, in our case says "Apply clear toner", since that's the "special" color we have. I'm pretty sure yours will say "Apply white toner" and "Apply special toner" depending on what toner you have loaded. Dont check any of the other boxes except maybe "high quality". Hope that helps.

 

[CreoleCuisine]

Because you can only have one "special" color loaded at a time, you will need to have two different files, one that has the gold only and one that has the white only. Then you will need to run the sheet through twice, once for each color. We usually have a main file built so that each color is on it's own layer. Then we export for the color we need with only that layer turned on. In your case you'd need to export one file for the gold and one file for the white. Then in the fiery under the job's properties go to specialty colors section and you want to check the box that, in our case says "Apply clear toner", since that's the "special" color we have. I'm pretty sure yours will say "Apply white toner" and "Apply special toner" depending on what toner you have loaded. Dont check any of the other boxes except maybe "high quality". Hope that helps.

This was extremely helpful, thanks for your response! The business cards for my company only have 2 different addresses. So, I was thinking of printing some shells with each address and any other common info - such as the logo - to have on hand in one color and the name, title and phone numbers in the other color. It would certainly save time changing the colors and restarting the machine.

 

[AJB123]

This was extremely helpful, thanks for your response! The business cards for my company only have 2 different addresses. So, I was thinking of printing some shells with each address and any other common info - such as the logo - to have on hand in one color and the name, title and phone numbers in the other color. It would certainly save time changing the colors and restarting the machine.

That's great! And that sounds like a good idea!

 

[CreoleCuisine]

finally got around to experimenting with this idea and the white toner isnt printing totally white. kinda has a pinkish tone. is there anything i need to correct in the design file or the print settings?

 

[AJB123]

finally got around to experimenting with this idea and the white toner isnt printing totally white. kinda has a pinkish tone. is there anything i need to correct in the design file or the print settings?

On ours, if anything, the white has a blueish tone. But it's really hard to see. There shouldn't be anything else to do in indesign other than make it the spot color. I'm assuming you don't have any colors underneath or on top of the "white"? And as far as print settings I've never see anything to adjust the color of the "White". The only thing I've seen is you can adjust the percentage of the special toner being put down. Thats in the Specialty Color in properties. And it's labeled Toner Limit.

 

[CreoleCuisine]

On ours, if anything, the white has a blueish tone. But it's really hard to see. There shouldn't be anything else to do in indesign other than make it the spot color. I'm assuming you don't have any colors underneath or on top of the "white"? And as far as print settings I've never see anything to adjust the color of the "White". The only thing I've seen is you can adjust the percentage of the special toner being put down. Thats in the Specialty Color in properties. And it's labeled Toner Limit.

ok i did see that percentage setting and i made sure it was at 100%

would it help if i ran it twice? would that make the white whiter? not only is it a tad pink but its a bit dull as well. not the whitest white. i'm printing on black card, if that matters. i had to add this paper to my media catalog and i did set it as black paper....

 

[AJB123]

It might make it more opaque, but then you run the risk of it looking blurry due to registration issue from running it through twice. I don't think printing it on a black card matters that much unless the white is not printing opaque. If it's not opaque and printing pink you might need a tech.

 

[CreoleCuisine]

It might make it more opaque, but then you run the risk of it looking blurry due to registration issue from running it through twice. I don't think printing it on a black card matters that much unless the white is not printing opaque. If it's not opaque and printing pink you might need a tech.

thats another issue .... the registration on this machine is supposed to be dead on balls accurate.

 

[AJB123]

lol Yeeeaaah supposed to be. Its ok when doing large blocks, but when you do something with fine lines or small text it's noticeable. But it is far better than our 9210.

 

[CreoleCuisine]

lol Yeeeaaah supposed to be. Its ok when doing large blocks, but when you do something with fine lines or small text it's noticeable. But it is far better than our 9210.

ok the white toner on the black card was dull. so i ran it thru a 2nd time. printed brighter. then a 3rd time. and the registration was indeed dead on balls accurate. one thing i did make sure of was the the spot color in the art file was named the same as in the device center. that also needs to be dead on balls. my file was named WHITE but the device center had White. Once I added the spot WHITE to the device center, that made the pink tone go away.

 

[AJB123]

ok the white toner on the black card was dull. so i ran it thru a 2nd time. printed brighter. then a 3rd time. and the registration was indeed dead on balls accurate. one thing i did make sure of was the the spot color in the art file was named the same as in the device center. that also needs to be dead on balls. my file was named WHITE but the device center had White. Once I added the spot WHITE to the device center, that made the pink tone go away.

Nice! I'm glad you got it to work. I wish ours was dead on balls accurate. I'll have to talk to the tech the next time he's up.

 

[jwheeler]

There's alot of talk of balls in this chat!