ripit speedsetter 300x1 film type?

[ganzman72]

Can somebody please tell me what kind of film to buy for the early model rips.Its a older model so its ir film.Theres alot of contradicting advice out there and i need someone to set me straight.IM converting from poly plates to film but im confused about the specs.Any advise would be great....thank you...Ripit speedsetter 300x1 shallow bath processor

 

[Al Ferrari]

Film? Are you sure about the film part? A Google search for either Ripit speedsetter or Ripit speedsetter 300x1 yields results that are exclusively about Plate Setting. Have you contacted the manufacturer?

Al

 

[ganzman72]

Hi Al,
Thanks for responding.Yes i have contacted Xante(which now owns ripit)I spoke with a tech who was not fimiliar with my/thier equipment.He said he would research it and call me back.Hour later he calls and says "although my speedsetter can image film,my processor would not develope it because it does not run through the processor slow enough to develope correctly".I reminded him that it has a speed control that can bring the processor to a COMPLETE STOP.He responed"Im just tring to save you a headach"?What,anyway he told me that this call would be free,but if i called again that they would charge me for their support.Anyhow this is why ive turned to the board.
Oh Yeah,If you go on their website,the model i have does advertise that it can do poly,film,rc paper.I will be thankful for any comments.
john

 

[Al Ferrari]

That's a story to tell the grand children. Welcome to tech support. They have essentially abandoned that application for the product. I agree that searching the boards is your only hope. Good luck.

Al

 

[VladCanada]

Ripit machine is a hybrid of former ExxtraSetter imagesetter and very popular (probably cheapest)Wastech processor.
Both units are able to work with film separately but in your case the processor needs upgrade of the Dryer to get dry film at output.
The best solution I know - extra take-up cassette and extra off-line processor could give you some flexibility in production.
And again from my experience - I've never met the Customer who was completely satisfied with Exxtasetter because of too much flexibility of 4 mil film. In case of 5 mil polyester plate the results (repeatability and laser beam at focus) were more acceptable.

 

[ganzman72]

Hi Vlad,
thanks for responding.Are you saying that the dryer i have on there now is not good enough to dry the film?Im a little confused because it has no problem drying the poly plates.Could you please explain a little more.
Thank you
john

 

[VladCanada]

From http://ripit.com/imagesystems/inline300400/300inlinespec.html:

Processor:
• Vastech 3-bath (22.5" W x 30.5" D) with automatic fan dryer*
• Straight media path®
• Easy rollaway cleaning®
• In-line bridge and stands®
• Film and take-up cassettes optional®
*Optional Heat Dryer available®

Probably you have an upgraded version with two heating elements inside, but normally Poly plates need less heat to get dried than Film. Film has a gelatine layer which absorbs more water then Poly.
Even wet Poly plates never stick together, but Film pieces do!
ABDick (Rest In Peace!) made their own hybrid "Poly CTP" based on ScanView 4900 imagesetter and a short version of the Processor without the Dryer and Water section at all.
The main ABDick idea was - to keep a place at floorplan as less as possible, and they put the imagesetter on top of the Processor and eliminated the Dryer and Wash.

 

[ganzman72]

Vald,
That link says url not found.Can you recommend a film type?
john

 

[VladCanada]

CtP Poly 300 In-Line Specifications
Try this URL.
Any type of Film, but I'd rather prefer thicker than 4 mil film

 

[Tommy B]

Ripit

Ripit

The older machines used IR Spec 829 if it has a reloadable cassette or spec 867 it there is no cassette. The processor should be fine, it probably has a heater in it if your poly comes out dry.

 

[DonBlock]

Good luck finding a good supplier for the IR material. This is the original technology that was used when the manufacturers changed from gas lasers to diodes and the material is very difficult to get. I'm fairly certain that none of the manufacturers are making it anymore so what you get if any will be older stock and may not perform as expected.

 

[Tommy B]

IR Film

IR Film

Hi Don

Believe it or not there are manufactures still making IR material.

Tom

 

[DonBlock]

That may be for now, but even as a dealer it is hard to get our hands on it on the film side. Mitsubishi still makes it for Poly, but I would not purchase a machine for film that uses it. If you have to use film, get a machine that uses the Red Light film. If cost is an issue for the machine and depending on what size you need, look for a used Agfa AccuSet. These are very solid imagesetters and can do 4 mil Poly as well as film.

 

[Pressman's Pride]

It is readily for the 300 IR machine, in pre-casettes or rolls. The rolls have been cut back to 82' feet but the cassetted film is still available in 98' 13.3x98 IR Spec 867. There is an issue with drum collapsing if the material comes out of the precassette too tight so it's best to buy pre-cassettes from somebody who knows what they're talking about. As a person who does know a little about this issue due to 10 years working for Ripit I can help you with this (non) issue