NCR Book Making Techniques

[rwyeth]

I currently do NCR loose sets and NCR pads on chipboard with padding compound. But, I've had a number of customers request books. My plan is to use pre-perforated NCR on chipboard and stitch them. But, I wonder how everyone approaches any sort of edge binding (tape, part of cover, etc) and how you handle wrap around covers. I like the method of folding the cover all the way around the bound edge and stitched. But, for an 8.5x11 book, I would need something like 25" long paper. My other thought would be to do as I currently do and just glue the separator/cover and inch or so in at the bottom. Just curious what other peoples methods are.
Thanks,
Robert

 

[namelessentity]

We do the wrap around covers with perf NCR. We just order parent sheets for the covers. Bindery hates doing them though.

 

[rwyeth]

Well, I am the bindery in my case. I think to avoid dealing with parent sheets, I'll stick with my old method of gluing the separator/cover. I'm a bit torn on doing any finishing tape or something on the stitched edge.

 

[chrisio]

Well, I am the bindery in my case. I think to avoid dealing with parent sheets, I'll stick with my old method of gluing the separator/cover. I'm a bit torn on doing any finishing tape or something on the stitched edge.

We just do tape on the spine, couple of different colours depending on the customer. Some get a basic cover and greyboard insert and others get a wrap around cover again depending on the customer.

 

[rwyeth]

We just do tape on the spine, couple of different colours depending on the customer. Some get a basic cover and greyboard insert and others get a wrap around cover again depending on the customer.

Thanks for the input. I'm probably overthinking it. I've just had a few customers request books rather than pads and was weighing my options.

 

[keith1]

Did lots of books with wrap in back covers. Back was heavy card and about 21-22 inches (can't recall exactly). Front cover was optional ($) and wasn't required to be as heavy as the back. Couple of stitches at the top. Tape was optional ($). Pre-perfed NCR, so 11.5".
Scored covers by hand (butter knife or similar) using the cutter clamp as a backstop to get the score straight. As these books became more popular the back covers were sent out for scoring and kept in stock.
Did similar for carbon sets. Remember carbon?!

 

[rwyeth]

Did lots of books with wrap in back covers. Back was heavy card and about 21-22 inches (can't recall exactly). Front cover was optional ($) and wasn't required to be as heavy as the back. Couple of stitches at the top. Tape was optional ($). Pre-perfed NCR, so 11.5".
Scored covers by hand (butter knife or similar) using the cutter clamp as a backstop to get the score straight. As these books became more popular the back covers were sent out for scoring and kept in stock.
Did similar for carbon sets. Remember carbon?!

This sounds more like my style; good idea using the cutter backstop. I am not old enough to have dealt much with carbon; but, I do have some carbon sheets that I like to get out from time to time to use with my typewriter collection.

 

[jwheeler]

Like @namelessentity , we do the wrap-around covers for our NCR books. We are a county inplant, so we print lots of citation/ticket books. We order the manila tag stock in parent sheets, then cut to a size that will run through our slitter/cutter/creaser. That will create all of the creases for the folds while also cutting 2 or 3 out of the sheet depending on the size of the book. We use heavy duty staplers similar to this one to put 2 staples at the top of each book. We line up the books to a guide on the stapler to make sure placement is consistent.

 

[rwyeth]

Like @namelessentity , we do the wrap-around covers for our NCR books. We are a county inplant, so we print lots of citation/ticket books. We order the manila tag stock in parent sheets, then cut to a size that will run through our slitter/cutter/creaser. That will create all of the creases for the folds while also cutting 2 or 3 out of the sheet depending on the size of the book. We use heavy duty staplers similar to this one to put 2 staples at the top of each book. We line up the books to a guide on the stapler to make sure placement is consistent.

Thank you for sharing! I think I'm on the right track. I did a couple samples with almost that exact same stapler with good success. I think this method might be easier than dealing with padding compound and waiting for it to dry, if my pad customers like it.

 

[Pennypicher]

Thinking on the style of police ticketing booklets. Had like 50 sets and a wrap around minilla tag sheet that separated the form from the others and gave them a writing surface. Oh and the chip board on the bottom for stiffness. Remember trying to staple 3/4"+ booklets!!!