DevostD
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Exactly... we're waiting to see what Xerox comes back with to our offer.
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I'm curious if they gave you any numbers. A local Xerox rep said the new 280 was running 30% higher than the previous one.
DevostD
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To buy out or clicks charge?
The lease increase over your current 280 vs the new. A 30% increase in lease payments seems extreme and I was wondering if it was just my Xerox rep or if this is how it is. I just bought my 280 prior to the end of the lease.
DevostD
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Wow. It will be interesting to see what Xerox comes back with then, albeit we're pretty convinced we'll buy the 280 out. It does everything we need.
AP90
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I can see this since Xerox is strapped for cash already and just had to move some IP stuff to secure a $500 million or so loan to pay their debt. Plus they just laid off like 1000+ employees a couple weeks ago. At this point they’re just kicking the can down the road my a few months with this stuff before they declare bankruptcy
You could be right, I have no idea what Xerox has in mind for production machines. I do know that if Xerox gets out of the production press market, then the badge on the machines will just say Fujifilm instead of Xerox.
Stickman42
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On the Xerox production monochrome front, Nuvera support is ending in 2031, I believe, and I don’t think they’ll even sell you one. I’ve been getting proposals for PrimeLinks. Initially they looked like they would work for my application. After reading the Customer Expectations document, several limitations not mentioned in the brochure (or by the salesman) have me looking at other vendors’ options.
EdwardB
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Please, do tell!
Stickman42
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I mostly run 12.5" x 18.5" 50/60# uncoated text on my Nuveras. I routinely preprint color inserts on our Iridesse, and use the post-fuser inserter to put them in the document where they need to go, and they deliver to the high capacity stacker. I dedicate another inserter paper tray for slipsheets (my jobs are usually 4-up, which I need to guillotine before perfect binding). I explained all this to my salesman and he says the PrimeLink can do the job. Concerns:
- Sales and the product specialist say the PrimeLink Inserter Module is not compatible with the high capacity stacker
- The CED says "output from color xerographic printers does not run through the printing path (fuser) of this family of Production Press. However, the prints can be used with the Post Process Inserter which bypasses the fuser"
- CED: "36 million prints or 5 years is the machine life for the Xerox PrimeLink B9100 series" (our Nuveras are in their teens, so this isn't exactly comforting)
- Sales: "The high capacity stacker holds up to 5000 sheets". CED: "The HCS is subject to stack weight limitations, and settings have been implemented to prevent damage to the unit caused by an excessively heavy stack." The accompanying chart says 12" x 18" stacks are "<2300 sheets"
namelessentity
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I'd look at an Canon Varioprint 6000 then. You don't need a post inserter, because the paper path can just be diverted which allows you to use any tray as an insert tray. You can also do a split & merge, so if you have a book with 15 color pages and 190 b&w you can just run all the color pages in order, then use PrismaPrepare to use a tray as "cyclic media", and it knows where to insert those pages. Also, the Canon/Oce stacker is insanely good, especially compared to Xerox's plastic pile of garbage they call a stacker.
I will say, the 6000 is not cheap, and there's more machine maintenance, but it was my favorite monochrome machine I've ever used. Our model just happened to be EOL and and we couldn't justify the cost of replacing it vs two Primelink's.
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