Print problem v180

Moutamix

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Hello everyone, i have a xerox versant 180, it print a light background on all sheet as you can see in the photos pls what can be the problem
Thank you for your help
 

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DYP

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Since you didn't answer my question and haven't given us a lot of information I will just say if it is on the bottom side if a single sided print then look at the 2ndBTR. If it is the top side and all colors then make sure the ITB cleaner is replaced or cleaned out. Also check the condition of the fuser belt.
 

TJPrinter

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Does this background image bleed off all four sides or do you have a very small white margin on any of the sides?
 

Moutamix

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Since you didn't answer my question and haven't given us a lot of information I will just say if it is on the bottom side if a single sided print then look at the 2ndBTR. If it is the top side and all colors then make sure the ITB cleaner is replaced or cleaned out. Also check the condition of the fuser belt.
Sorry if i don't underdtand your question
The background is in the printed side
 

Ferran

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just to rule out that it's not a software issue... assuming you have a Fiery Command WS, could you check that the color settings are correct? - Please, check if the selected CMYK Processing Method is Full (Output GCR), and that the “Paper Simulation” checkbox is not activated.
 

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TJPrinter

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I have a Versant 280 and have the same background toner on the print side. It’s only noticeable if you compare it to another sheet of unprinted stock that has a high white level of brightness. On coated stock it’s more noticeable, on uncoated stock it’s almost impossible to see unless you’re looking for it and even then it’s hard to find. The image that you posted does seem to be more evident but it’s difficult to tell for sure.

The toner that creates this background is smaller than the yellow security dots and can only be seen through a loupe. I don’t know for sure but the tech believes it’s caused from floating toner dust within the machine that gets fused to the sheet. If that’s the case, then it would be best to make sure all your filters are clean and to vacuum any toner deposits that have accumulated within the press. I think the floating toner explanation is a stretch but possible. It's not a Fiery issue, you'll get the same results from a copy off the glass.

I have some test files that were printed by Xerox on a Versant 180 and they too have the background. I never noticed this background when I was getting samples from vendors but sure enough when I pulled out the samples over a year later I could see it if I used a loupe. If this background image is the same as I’m describing then there is no fix, it’s a built in Xerox feature.
 

pippip

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I think the op's problem is different, looks like a 10% screen across the page.

Make a photocopy of something to eliminate the rip/software.
I'd change drums around to see if it alters, run a calibration too.
 
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Moutamix

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just to rule out that it's not a software issue... assuming you have a Fiery Command WS, could you check that the color settings are correct? - Please, check if the selected CMYK Processing Method is Full (Output GCR), and that the “Paper Simulation” checkbox is not activated.
CMYK Processing Method is Full (Output GCR) is cheked but i don't have paper simulation
I have changed all drums
 

Moutamix

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Thank yo
I have a Versant 280 and have the same background toner on the print side. It’s only noticeable if you compare it to another sheet of unprinted stock that has a high white level of brightness. On coated stock it’s more noticeable, on uncoated stock it’s almost impossible to see unless you’re looking for it and even then it’s hard to find. The image that you posted does seem to be more evident but it’s difficult to tell for sure.

The toner that creates this background is smaller than the yellow security dots and can only be seen through a loupe. I don’t know for sure but the tech believes it’s caused from floating toner dust within the machine that gets fused to the sheet. If that’s the case, then it would be best to make sure all your filters are clean and to vacuum any toner deposits that have accumulated within the press. I think the floating toner explanation is a stretch but possible. It's not a Fiery issue, you'll get the same results from a copy off the glass.

I have some test files that were printed by Xerox on a Versant 180 and they too have the background. I never noticed this background when I was getting samples from vendors but sure enough when I pulled out the samples over a year later I could see it if I used a loupe. If this background image is the same as I’m describing then there is no fix, it’s a built in Xerox feature.
Thank you for your answer
I think i have the same problem
Tomorow i'll try to print a copy and see if i'll have the same problem
Before i have a konica it's my first xerox 😀
 

tngcas

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This can happen when a drum gets too low although it's been quite a while since I've had a drum get low enough to cause this issue. Lately they wear out long before they start doing this.
 

Moutamix

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I think the op's problem is different, looks like a 10% screen across the page.

Make a photocopy of something to eliminate the rip/software.
I'd change drums around to see if it alters, run a calibration too.
I have change all drums
 

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