Fight of the century

geoman said:
Both Lithography and Xerography are "old" technologies, known to the ancients but comercialised by modern man and modern society's need for speed, speed and more speed.
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I thought Xeroxgraphy was invented in 1938 ... and Xerox was born.
 
Chuck Norris invented the web browser.... duh! Al Gore is the father of the internet, he said so himself. Let's try to keep the facts strait here!
 
Is it me or has this thread drifted a little off topic?

... had a look at the C8000 at ipex and am none the wiser. Will get to play with one in a couple of weeks once KM UK have a demo machine installed. They're not likely to ship production units till late September at the earliest and were talking to us about installing a 6501 first, then running it alongside the 8000 till we were happy to let go of the 6501. In the UK pricing is extremely vague. Other than that there was nothing they could add in terms of technical info that wasn't already on the video.

Interestingly they were also showing a c6000 and c7000 which they say are based on the 6501 but with the hd toner from the c8000. Ship dates for those were even more vague than the c8000.
 
I'm with you overscan and am not really any the wiser after seeing it at ipex. Funnily enough, between this and the x800/1000, the Xerox looked closer to a finished product. Although (& despite what I've heard on this forum!!) Xerox were clear that the 800/1000 was not a shipping product yet. I was told that they have a fairly large number of "friendly" European customer sites doing shake down tests in real world environments. That's exactly what I want to hear pre-launch of a new commercial machine (let someone else sort out the worst of the bugs before I hand over my hard earned cash!). My gut tells me KM is a good 3 months behind that and I'm not convinced that they understand the requirements for thorough field testing before hitting the big green button on the production line. I hope I'm wrong, but it might be office machine mentality vs commercial print-for-pay mind set?? When you're asking $270K for a basic spec machine you need to make darn sure the thing works properly from day 1!
 
Totally agree with Ifelton - digital isnt the most reliable of technologies and field testing is vital before they release them. Think this is where Canon suffered. Any comments on the quality between the 2 machines? I know its hard to gauge when they only use the standard - press friendly images....
 
lfelton said:
Although (& despite what I've heard on this forum!!) Xerox were clear that the 800/1000 was not a shipping product yet. I was told that they have a fairly large number of "friendly" European customer sites doing shake down tests in real world environments.
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not sure in Europe, but in the U.S. orders have been placed and shipped already.
 
overscan said:
Is it me or has this thread drifted a little off topic?

Interestingly they were also showing a c6000 and c7000 which they say are based on the 6501 but with the hd toner from the c8000. Ship dates for those were even more vague than the c8000.
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So that should deal to the xerox line of "we have more models than anyone else" C5501,C6501,C65HC,C6000,C7000,C8000. My understanding is the C6000 @ C7000 are all 1200DPI as well.
 
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Hmmm, not a swished up C6501

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