Pantone Color Libraries will be removed from future Adobe updates

miconut

Member
For those who own Xrite I1 spectros or who have licensed i1profiler, Pantone Color Manager can be downloaded and will still work. For the moment, that includes connecting to PantoneLive and getting updates of fan deck data.
Yep. And if you don't have a license key and move fast you can download the color manager as a demo and export the updated colorbooks to load back into illustrator/Photoshop.
 

scotts

Well-known member
Could this be a part of the thing with Pantone having multiple libraries for different type of media now. Where let's say Adobe doesn't want to pay for the plastic and textile libraries, but Pantone wants them included in the apps. So this will be a way to force the issue. It was much nicer when there was just Pantone Coated and Un-Coated.
 

wonderings

Well-known member
I think a reminder is due here:
Anyone who can make do with the old versions' functionalities of his s/w, should create Virtual Machines of the older computers and thus, can keep on using these computers as VMs and keep using for as long as they like.
If you don't REALLY need the MODERN functionalities past CS 6 - you can go on using these OLDER s/w versions in your new current, powerfull modern computer, under the latest OS, with no additional payments - just buy one software (I use VMware but there are many others, for Mac and other OSs too).
Plenty of educational info on the web and instructional videos on Youtube.
Anyone can hold on to their old files, fonts, Pantone Libraries, etc., save plenty of money and endless work hours.
It is one thing to do that with a perpetual license, it hurts when you need to do that with a subscription. So staying with the same version for ever while always paying monthly fees without getting updates for the software.

Pantone Connect Basic does not give you L*a*b* numbers for individual colors- Pantone Connect Premium does. You want the
L*a*b* number because it is a device independent representation for the color.

The best way to get colors in L*a*b* into InDesign, Illustrator, and/or Photoshop is
an ASE file. Neither Pantone Connect Basic nor Pantone Connect Premium are capable
of generating an ASE file.

Since you are only asking to do one or two Pantone colours per job, Pantone Connect
Premium will allow you to look, on an individual basis, at each Pantone color and get
the L*a*b* number for it. You can then manually enter this in the Adobe applications
when you create a new swatch.
I never look at L*A*B* numbers, when I have a pantone I see it as a spot colour, no makeup needed for me as I have a swatch book, just need it to be there so when making plates it separates and is labeled correctly on the plate. I only use pantones for press, anything digital or wide format gets converted to CMYK before proofs happen.
 

Dov Isaacs

Well-known member
I am going to try find out what is really going on although I cannot guarantee anything …

- Dov

Following up on this:

I've made several attempts via a few separate contacts to get some clarification as to what we can expect with whatever updates are made to InDesign, Illustrator, Photoshop, FrameMaker, and Acrobat beginning in March. All I am getting is “radio silence” from those who should be able to provide a response. Adobe PR is likewise keeping tight-lipped about this situation. What I have been able to ascertain is that this situation was not of Adobe's making and that they are in a panic to come up with some solution which they are not ready and willing to share with the public (nor do they seem to be willing to bounce ideas off of those of us who might be able to assist them)!

In terms of existing content, any Pantone colors referenced (with their names and alternate color space - typically L*A*B* - specification) in your existing PostScript, EPS, PDF, and even source InDesign, Illustrator, and Photoshop files should be safe and usable into the indefinite future. Those definitions will be maintained. It is only if you wish to add a particular color that isn't already defined in the file that the “new order” exists.

Furthermore, it is believed that only the Pantone .acb files will not be installed as part of the March-and-later releases. (There are other, non-Pantone colors that will continue to be supported that use the same .acb file mechanism!) Conceivably, after the March-and-later releases, you could copy your own .acb files into the locations that these applications have traditionally stored the .acb files. Thus, it might be prudent to save copies of all your existing .acb files in a directory totally outside the Adobe application directory hierarchy in case you need to reference them in some manner in the future (wink, wink, wink).

More if and when I hear anything …

- Dov
 

bteifeld

Active member
Following up on this:

I've made several attempts via a few separate contacts to get some clarification as to what we can expect with whatever updates are made to InDesign, Illustrator, Photoshop, FrameMaker, and Acrobat beginning in March. All I am getting is “radio silence” from those who should be able to provide a response. Adobe PR is likewise keeping tight-lipped about this situation. What I have been able to ascertain is that this situation was not of Adobe's making and that they are in a panic to come up with some solution which they are not ready and willing to share with the public (nor do they seem to be willing to bounce ideas off of those of us who might be able to assist them)!

In terms of existing content, any Pantone colors referenced (with their names and alternate color space - typically L*A*B* - specification) in your existing PostScript, EPS, PDF, and even source InDesign, Illustrator, and Photoshop files should be safe and usable into the indefinite future. Those definitions will be maintained. It is only if you wish to add a particular color that isn't already defined in the file that the “new order” exists.

Furthermore, it is believed that only the Pantone .acb files will not be installed as part of the March-and-later releases. (There are other, non-Pantone colors that will continue to be supported that use the same .acb file mechanism!) Conceivably, after the March-and-later releases, you could copy your own .acb files into the locations that these applications have traditionally stored the .acb files. Thus, it might be prudent to save copies of all your existing .acb files in a directory totally outside the Adobe application directory hierarchy in case you need to reference them in some manner in the future (wink, wink, wink).

More if and when I hear anything …

- Dov
I think it may be valuable to mention that as of this moment, Pantone Color Manager still works in retrieving data from Pantone Live. It can export ACB, ASE, CXF, and many
other file types. If you have an i1 spectro or an i1profiler dongle you are licensed to fully use Pantone Color Manager. Pantone Color Manager also has an integration
such that it can send appropriate files to populate the Photoshop, Illustrator, and Indesign swatch books. I suggest using the ASE file type with L*a*b* D50 selected.
 

jwheeler

Well-known member
I posted this in the other thread about the same topic as well...wanted to make sure people following this thread got the update:

Finally, we get an answer in this article. Key notes:
  • Pantone VP explains: "...the future of Pantone colors in Adobe products lies in add-on software, Pantone Connect, which will let the color systems company sell complete and up-to-date color data directly to its own users. . .Pantone was unable to actively update the library to correct any changes to the color data or to update it with new colors,” Cheng told CreativePro. “We had to find a way to address user problems regarding these outdated libraries.”"
  • "On top of the usual Adobe Creative Cloud subscription plans, Pantone Connect will cost $7.99 per month or $35.99 for a full year for the first year and $59.99 annually thereafter."
  • "Nothing will prevent a user of the affected software from creating a brand-new color swatch as a spot color, selecting a color using RGB sliders to match the printed Pantone chip."
  • "Users of Photoshop on the Mac M1 processor will find that the Extension won’t load at all, as Adobe has changed the file format for add-on software. Users wishing to access Pantone Connect and other Extensions will need to run the Intel version of Photoshop under Rosetta 2 or downgrade to version 22.2.0 via the Creative Cloud app."
  • "Existing documents—both native application documents and PDFs generated for publication or distribution—will be unaffected by any changes, with essential color information (though it might be from data that Pantone says is long outdated) remaining embedded in the documents that are created with current tools."
 

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