The Invention

[gordo]

 

[aqazi81]

Erik?......

 

[D Ink Man]

I don't think that is Erik. Erik is clean shaven, wears glasses and is much more handsome.

D

 

[Possumgal]

Yeah, but that inventor guy is just a pressman, what does he know?

 

[dabob]

Come on now . . .Lets play nice . . . .

 

[Deleted member 16349]

Erik?......

Well, it can not be me. Different look. Also an early prototype version of my invention was first successfully tested about 24 years ago. I am glad to see other inventors have tried to get this problem addressed but sorry too that they have not had success getting the industries attention.

There are other inventions on presses now, that are sold, and will basically do the same thing. They will make the ink feed independent of the water feed and therefore will not have the ink water balancing problems that cause density variation. Goss has its system and so does QuadTech. Both of these mechanical systems will maintain density even if the water settings are changed. Now these companies do not understand their own technologies and have never shown interest in suggestions that they should do some tests to show this out.

I do have experience with these kind of systems. I patented one and it was built and ran in production. It pumped high viscosity EB inks into the press with multiple positive ink pumps, one for each ink key. (Just a comment, the Goss and QuadTech systems can not pump high viscosity inks.)

Anyhow, what was learned about that experience also gives me the knowledge to know what Goss and QuadTech are doing wrong. Goss's system, in one form or another, has been around for maybe about thirty years. You would think that they would have spent some effort to understand more fully how to make their system work better but unfortunately not. Technology without imagination. QuadTech is new to this since they bought the technology from The Controls Group. I have suggested to a QuadTech expert that they should study how their system eliminated ink water balance, but it seems they have no time and also no imagination.

It is interesting because I know how to fix their systems so that they will perform better. Pumping ink into the press, per ink key, is probably the best method but it has to be done correctly. These companies don't understand this.

My invention has advantages over the highly expensive systems which Goss and QuadTech sell. My system is low cost, can be used with high viscosity inks and will also have a faster response rate, which is very important for extra short makereadies. But again, a pumping system per ink key would be even better if it was done correctly. My invention could have been made and put on the early presses, that had open ink fountains and ductors, in the mid 1860's. Goss and QuadTech systems required the advancement of computers and servo drives, which are fairly recent, to make them possible.

So it is great that inventions are made and tried out. There should be an interest to think in that direction.
Before an invention is actually a product, it is difficult for anyone to see the potential. This is just not a printing industry problem but they seem to excel at this.

Engineers should be more capable of thinking of the possibilities without having everything demonstrated. They don't always do but they should. What I would like to do most is to talk with engineers that are supposed to be driving process improvement in the printing process. I know what they don't know and I know what they need to know and how to get that knowledge to them.

Vistaprint (Cimpress) is an ideal target company. For one thing, it has a production model that needs the critical knowledge of how to get jobs done quickly and consistently and I know they have problems with this even if they would not admit it. They have a corporate goal to do just that. They also have tons of engineers working for them. I would like to talk to their engineers here in Canada at their Windsor plant. There is a real problem trying to get in contact with these people but that is what I would like to do. If you work for Vistaprint in Windsor, let the engineers know someone would like to help them.

 

[D Ink Man]

I really believe in you Erik. The only question I believe is how you can market your knowledge and wisdom to these huge players driving the technological industry of print offset.

You are an engineer Erik; toot, toot. Perhaps you need a silly sales people person to get you in position to drive your interests. Make it a quest. Please do not talk about what you knew 30 years ago and the tree that has not produced fruit. It would be super melancholy for your concepts to die on the vine with you. Use your time to think outside the box and get someone else involved so your great work and efforts are not melted to oblivion. Give in, link in with other people in different expertises and life skills to assist you.

It shall not diminish your accomplishments, but shall highlight them to the highest pinnacle. I personally am very much rooting for you. Open up, team with the propers and make it a REALITY. Thank you for your efforts. Now take the next step. Your colleague and friend,

D Ink Man

 

[dabob]

Well, it can not be me. Different look. Also an early prototype version of my invention was first successfully tested about 24 years ago. I am glad to see other inventors have tried to get this problem addressed but sorry too that they have not had success getting the industries attention.

There are other inventions on presses now, that are sold, and will basically do the same thing. They will make the ink feed independent of the water feed and therefore will not have the ink water balancing problems that cause density variation. Goss has its system and so does QuadTech. Both of these mechanical systems will maintain density even if the water settings are changed. Now these companies do not understand their own technologies and have never shown interest in suggestions that they should do some tests to show this out.

I do have experience with these kind of systems. I patented one and it was built and ran in production. It pumped high viscosity EB inks into the press with multiple positive ink pumps, one for each ink key. (Just a comment, the Goss and QuadTech systems can not pump high viscosity inks.)

Anyhow, what was learned about that experience also gives me the knowledge to know what Goss and QuadTech are doing wrong. Goss's system, in one form or another, has been around for maybe about thirty years. You would think that they would have spent some effort to understand more fully how to make their system work better but unfortunately not. Technology without imagination. QuadTech is new to this since they bought the technology from The Controls Group. I have suggested to a QuadTech expert that they should study how their system eliminated ink water balance, but it seems they have no time and also no imagination.

It is interesting because I know how to fix their systems so that they will perform better. Pumping ink into the press, per ink key, is probably the best method but it has to be done correctly. These companies don't understand this.

My invention has advantages over the highly expensive systems which Goss and QuadTech sell. My system is low cost, can be used with high viscosity inks and will also have a faster response rate, which is very important for extra short makereadies. But again, a pumping system per ink key would be even better if it was done correctly. My invention could have been made and put on the early presses, that had open ink fountains and ductors, in the mid 1860's. Goss and QuadTech systems required the advancement of computers and servo drives, which are fairly recent, to make them possible.

So it is great that inventions are made and tried out. There should be an interest to think in that direction.
Before an invention is actually a product, it is difficult for anyone to see the potential. This is just not a printing industry problem but they seem to excel at this.

Engineers should be more capable of thinking of the possibilities without having everything demonstrated. They don't always do but they should. What I would like to do most is to talk with engineers that are supposed to be driving process improvement in the printing process. I know what they don't know and I know what they need to know and how to get that knowledge to them.

Vistaprint (Cimpress) is an ideal target company. For one thing, it has a production model that needs the critical knowledge of how to get jobs done quickly and consistently and I know they have problems with this even if they would not admit it. They have a corporate goal to do just that. They also have tons of engineers working for them. I would like to talk to their engineers here in Canada at their Windsor plant. There is a real problem trying to get in contact with these people but that is what I would like to do. If you work for Vistaprint in Windsor, let the engineers know someone would like to help them.

Erik . . . doth protest too much, methinks" . . . .

 

[gordo]

Well, it can not be me.

Let's just say that I draw inspiration from some of the posts on PrintPlanet. ;-)

 

[Possumgal]

"My invention could have been made and put on the early presses, that had open ink fountains and ductors, in the mid 1860's."

Gee, I had no idea you were that old. :>

 

[gordo]

"My invention could have been made and put on the early presses, that had open ink fountains and ductors, in the mid 1860's."

Gee, I had no idea you were that old. :>

Sometimes they come back.