Upgrading to Ricoh 7200 series

[KeepSwimming]

I am looking to upgrade to the 7200 series. I am currently using a Pro7100s.

I understand the 7210 offers a 5th color. I believe I can use spot UV to increase profits, but I don't know how much more that would cost.

What's the difference between the 7200s and the 7200e other than speed and duty cycle? If there are other benefits, what are they and what's the cost difference?

We run a fair amount of booklets, which have been growing in page count over the past year. I think having a plotmatic, instead of the standard booklet maker like I have now, would be beneficial and an upsell for that nice square edge and full bleed capabilities. But, how much more would that cost?

I'm really trying to find that sweet spot in my equipment upgrades to enhance our product line, increase efficiency, and not go over board in this still uncertain market.

 

[Shawnd]

You should check out www.ricohbusinessbooster.com. I went with the 7200e so I could add 5th color down the road if needed.

 

[Shawnd]

If your volume of booklets is small I would get the Ricoh booklet finisher then buy something like the Formax IT2 bookletmaker for upgrading them to full bleed with squareback: Formax Square IT 2 Booklet Finisher

 

[KeepSwimming]

If your volume of booklets is small I would get the Ricoh booklet finisher then buy something like the Formax IT2 bookletmaker for upgrading them to full bleed with squareback: Formax Square IT 2 Booklet Finisher

Hi Shawnd,
Why would you prefer a separate piece of equipment for the booklet maker? I will have 2 Ricohs so I will be able to continue to print.

 

[KeepSwimming]

You should check out www.ricohbusinessbooster.com. I went with the 7200e so I could add 5th color down the road if needed.

Thanks Shawnd, but what are the other advantages to the e over the s? Do you know the price difference?

 

[Ynot_UK]

Offline finishing can be attractive for several reasons:

• Decent, well maintained finishing equipment typically outlasts the life of a print engine several times over
• If you have several print engines, your finishing is not tied to one machine
• Your CPC will typically be the same irrespective of what size sheet you are printing. You can print a small booklet 4-up if you're finishing offline, versus 1-up if you're finishing in-line.

 

[Shawnd]

https://ricohconfigurator.com

Use this tool to properly configure a RICOH Pro C7200S, Pro C7210S or Pro C7200SL production system. These systems support the needs of your enterprise with a broad range of applications, multifunction capabilities and consistent quality.

ricohconfigurator.com

https://ricohconfigurator.com

Use this tool to properly configure a RICOH Pro C7200e Graphic Arts Edition production system. Produce graphic communications that get noticed and satisfy a wider range of customer requests with oversized sheet options and support for specialty substrates.

ricohconfigurator.com

 

[Shawnd]

E:

Features​

• Outputs up to 85 ppm Color/B&W
• Monthly volumes up to 240,000 pages
• 2400 × 4800 dpi laser resolution with VCSEL Technology
• Support for oversized sheets up to 13" × 49.6"
• Auto-duplex up to 13" × 27.5"
• Print on media up to 360 gsm, metallic, synthetic, NCR, adhesive and magnetic substrates
• 16,200-sheet maximum paper capacity
• lnline, near-line and offline finishing options
• Upgradeable to a 5th Color Station

S:

Features​

• Outputs up to 95 ppm Color/B&W
• Monthly volumes up to 240,000 pages
• 2400 × 4800 dpi laser resolution with VCSEL Technology
• Support for oversized sheets up to 13" × 49.6"
• Auto-duplex up to 13" × 27.5"
• Print on media up to 360 gsm, textured, synthetic, NCR, linen, adhesive and magnetic substrates
• 16,200-sheet maximum paper capacity
• lnline, near-line and offline finishing option

 

[Shawnd]

Have you checked out the 5300?

Features​

• Outputs up to 80 ppm Color/B&W
• Monthly volumes up to 150,000 pages
• 2400 × 4800 dpi resolution with VCSEL Technology
• Support for heavy, textured and synthetic substrates up to 360 gsm and oversized prints up to 13" × 49.6"
• Auto-duplex up to 13" × 19.2"
• 8,550-sheet maximum paper capacity
• Inline, near-line and offline finishing options

If you would like to see the available configurations for the RICOH Pro C5300s/C5310s, visit the Ricoh Configurator pages for the following models:

• RICOH Pro C5300s/C5310s

 

[KeepSwimming]

E:

Features​

• Outputs up to 85 ppm Color/B&W
• Monthly volumes up to 240,000 pages
• 2400 × 4800 dpi laser resolution with VCSEL Technology
• Support for oversized sheets up to 13" × 49.6"
• Auto-duplex up to 13" × 27.5"
• Print on media up to 360 gsm, metallic, synthetic, NCR, adhesive and magnetic substrates
• 16,200-sheet maximum paper capacity
• lnline, near-line and offline finishing options
• Upgradeable to a 5th Color Station

S:

Features​

• Outputs up to 95 ppm Color/B&W
• Monthly volumes up to 240,000 pages
• 2400 × 4800 dpi laser resolution with VCSEL Technology
• Support for oversized sheets up to 13" × 49.6"
• Auto-duplex up to 13" × 27.5"
• Print on media up to 360 gsm, textured, synthetic, NCR, linen, adhesive and magnetic substrates
• 16,200-sheet maximum paper capacity
• lnline, near-line and offline finishing option

Thanks, that's a big help! My volume is a bit too high for the 5300.
I was just looking into the Ricoh configurations, and frankly some of it is very confusing to me.
Do you ever print magnetic substrates? I just realized both machines claim you can.

 

[Shawnd]

I have done postcards with magnets attached to them in the past, they ran ok. Magnetic Materials | MTM Imaging Supplies

 

[KeepSwimming]

I have done postcards with magnets attached to them in the past, they ran ok. Magnetic Materials | MTM Imaging Supplies

I'll check that out. Thanks again!

 

[cDirect]

I am looking to upgrade to the 7200 series. I am currently using a Pro7100s.

I understand the 7210 offers a 5th color. I believe I can use spot UV to increase profits, but I don't know how much more that would cost.

What's the difference between the 7200s and the 7200e other than speed and duty cycle? If there are other benefits, what are they and what's the cost difference?

We run a fair amount of booklets, which have been growing in page count over the past year. I think having a plotmatic, instead of the standard booklet maker like I have now, would be beneficial and an upsell for that nice square edge and full bleed capabilities. But, how much more would that cost?

I'm really trying to find that sweet spot in my equipment upgrades to enhance our product line, increase efficiency, and not go over board in this still uncertain market.

I know another shop with the 7200 and that 5th color spot UV is pretty weak if you ask me. I would get samples and them proceed. They mostly use the 5th for white, which in my opinion is a better option.

 

[rcreveli]

If the clear toner as the 7110 it is not comparable to spot UV. Even with the density at maximum it's doesn't stand out like a traditional UV or varnish.

 

[Shawnd]

I beg to differ, the clear can stand out if done correctly on the 7110. We did it for our own postcards on C2S stock and it looked great. Now getting customers to buy into it is a whole different deal.

 

[azehnali]

Xerox has had clear for close to 20 years
extremely overrated

 

[KeepSwimming]

I can see from the samples that it's not the same as spot UV, but it is a nice effect. As I understand you can make multiple passes to build it up also. Can't say I would have use for white toner, based on my current clients and print runs, or neons either. Perhaps the 5th color isn't worth it for us. Thank you all for your input!

 

[cDirect]

I can see from the samples that it's not the same as spot UV, but it is a nice effect. As I understand you can make multiple passes to build it up also. Can't say I would have use for white toner, based on my current clients and print runs, or neons either. Perhaps the 5th color isn't worth it for us. Thank you all for your input!

My buddy that I mentioned would rather have gotten the 9200 and had the speed than the novelty of the 5th color is what he told me. I looked at one but decided on a 9110 that gives me the 750,000 clicks per month I need.

 

[ColorMonkey]

I can see from the samples that it's not the same as spot UV, but it is a nice effect. As I understand you can make multiple passes to build it up also. Can't say I would have use for white toner, based on my current clients and print runs, or neons either. Perhaps the 5th color isn't worth it for us. Thank you all for your input!

So here is the thing with the clear that I noticed. Really if you set Special to lay down with max density (5) it works really well, not so much raised like spot UV, but a very nice effect IF used with dull stock for the contrast. Blind hits on dulls/mattes are amazing IMO. Problem to me is if your laying it over toner it really doesn't have the impact I would expect. When you look for it you see it but it doesn't stand out. To get it work work a little better or make it more obvious was to cut the fusing temp back so the color toner isn't as glossy to allow for the clear to stand out. Again you need to play with this to see what I mean.

Also a nice effect is when using a black or blue paper, laying down White then coming back with Clear over the image you can create what appears to be like a silver. You might need to play with the density of the Clear to get it how you like but the effect is actually kinda neat.