Versant 4100 Media Library behaviour

[ravenwing]

Hi all,

I bought a new v4100, one of the last made, replacing v2100. Had it installed yesterday and mostly the engine is the same but the media library is something else completely, and not in a good way!
I am not sure if it is a normal behaviour but even when all the settings are off, when loading paper and scanning the code, it still tries to do further setup.
If I click next, then it goes to the last step (Done) BUT deletes the associated alignment profile with the stock! If I have the paper calibration and profiling on, then it tries to do it every f*****g time!
If I cancel Setup at that stage, it doesn't delete it from the paper but it is not logical, and if one makes a mistake to click Next, all goes away.
Not to mention that when a stock is created via the barcode scanner, the alignment profile is not visible or editable, previously (v2100) we could tweak the alignment profiles after they are automatically created and now - no way.
I know where the stocks are and the alignment profiles, are and can edit the files (looks like .xml) but that is a very hack-y way of doing things, and it should be easier.

If that is intended, then it is very wrong! I love the idea of the barcode scanner etc. but the behaviour of the Media Manager is not logical.

Is there something wrong with it or is it a "feature"?

 

[EdwardB]

I'll save you a lot of headache... we stopped using the whole "scan the barcode" bologna after about 6 months... that was 4 years ago. It never worked as they said it would and we found it only wasted paper.

 

[SoggyWinter]

I'm with EdwardB. We just copy existing profiles, rename, and edit.

 

[ravenwing]

Thanks, it will be the hack-y way then

 

[EdwardB]

I loved the concept of the media catalog and how it was supposed to work. Xerox never gave any avenue for software support with the media catalog, it could have been way way better with just a handful of operational tweaks.

 

[wonderings]

I had a V2100 a while back and had zero issues maintaining my own paper catalogue, setting them up manually was a pretty simple task. I am guessing like most shops you have your standard stocks that you keep on hand, so you get to to a point where you have everything entered that you need and only occasionally come up with something outside of what you have on hand. No experience on the 4100 and the newer software, but previously it was simple and gave lots of control. If you can still operate that way I would suggest going that route and save yourself some headaches.

 

[SoggyWinter]

I had a V2100 a while back and had zero issues maintaining my own paper catalogue, setting them up manually was a pretty simple task. I am guessing like most shops you have your standard stocks that you keep on hand, so you get to to a point where you have everything entered that you need and only occasionally come up with something outside of what you have on hand. No experience on the 4100 and the newer software, but previously it was simple and gave lots of control. If you can still operate that way I would suggest going that route and save yourself some headaches.

The stock library manager for the 4100 is functionally very similar to the 2100/3100 SLM and you can totally ignore the barcode workflow / auto setup workflow.