Xerox Versant 80 Maintenance... How difficult is it?

[pippip]

I think it's clear the op can't afford / doesn't want a monthly repayment given the financial state they feel their currently in.

4p click on your current V80 sounds very low. I'd question any savings on keeping it going yourself out of contract as supplies could run more expensive.
I'd recommend seeing what the click rate might be on a 2nd hand V180 as I'd say you'll struggle there to match it.

i think all you can do is enquire about a new machine and costs etc knowing it will be 5 years.
Same for V180 costs etc knowing it's for 2 years and compare.

 

[azehnali]

if you service it yourself you will be paying much more than 4 p a sheet and you will have significant downtime
stick to what you know which is printing and leave the servicing to the professionals

 

[TJPrinter]

When I think about servicing my Xerox, I think about the bad toner issue that was blowing out drums left and right. It could have put me out of business if I had to pay for all the drums that I went through. I'm not a high volume user and I would estimate that the dealer has spend upwards of $9,000 on 2nd BTRs for my 280. Then there was the time Xerox had to replace several parts including the lasers on a 700 press, I can't even image what that would have set me back if I didn't have a contract.

I would spend the time and energy increasing revenue and profit instead of learning how to maintain the press, you'll be a happy printer if you do that.

 

[PricelineNegotiator]

Listen to PricelineNegotiator. He knows what he's talking about.

The older a machine gets, the more things go wrong, the higher the cost to your service provider to maintain it, so you pay a higher click charge.

It costs much less for them to maintain a newer machine, so, your click charges are lower. In many cases, the savings in click charges alone makes up for the lease payment and then some. Free machine.

Our V180 has a ridiculous amount of parts that get thrown into it. I can't imagine having to pay for those myself. Getting the new machine is going to make your life much easier.

While I love Xerox, the V180 and V80 replacement parts seem to be increasingly remanufactured parts that are defective. If you get the older machine get the service contract too.

The only reason we haven't switched to a 280 yet is the technical lift to transfer all of our Hot Folders and imposition templates over, and the fact that the 180 is running smoothly.

 

[Milo Wilson]

Our V180 has a ridiculous amount of parts that get thrown into it. I can't imagine having to pay for those myself. Getting the new machine is going to make your life much easier.

While I love Xerox, the V180 and V80 replacement parts seem to be increasingly remanufactured parts that are defective. If you get the older machine get the service contract too.

The only reason we haven't switched to a 280 yet is the technical lift to transfer all of our Hot Folders and imposition templates over, and the fact that the 180 is running smoothly.

How many times are the parts that are thrown at a machine not bad at all. Maybe not diagnosing the problem properly?

 

[sidneykidney]

We were also forced into getting rid of our V80 and now have a V280 with long sheet feeder (up to 1200mm long) which uses the same parts but the click rate has reduced from 4.5p to 2p which we had taken into consideration.
Regarding your creases, I've had a similar problem with lighter materials and Xerox changed the decurler and Nip rollers.
Finally, I could be wrong but I thought that the Versant 180 has an end of life date of End of 2025.

 

[MailGuru]

At the shop I worked at before I retired, we were running (2) Versant 2100's. After about a year, the Fiery Hyper-RIP on one of them kept crashing. Technicians tried reloading it several time to no avail. They finally had to just replace it. Those Hyper-RIPs are $75,000 each. I'd hate to have to shell that out myself if I was doing my own maintenance & repair.

 

[namelessentity]

At the shop I worked at before I retired, we were running (2) Versant 2100's. After about a year, the Fiery Hyper-RIP on one of them kept crashing. Technicians tried reloading it several time to no avail. They finally had to just replace it. Those Hyper-RIPs are $75,000 each. I'd hate to have to shell that out myself if I was doing my own maintenance & repair.

to be fair, it's a lot like medical prices. Nothing about that rip costs 75000 to make. It's like 800 in PC parts with a massive inflated mark-up. Xerox recently replaced an SD card with software and it was billed as $250 for a $12 SD card.

 

[bcr]

Not meaning to be a dick but many of your posts on here are about problems with your equipment etc.

It sounds like you need to find a better supplier and get a newer machine on a full service contract, and then focus on growth and business development instead of learning to service an obsolete machine which, whilst technically useful will deliver zero business growth or development. It's a dead end.

If you can't afford to lease one basic production printer, is your business actually viable?

You talk about wanting to try and save up to buy something outright but having failed thus far and wanting to try again, this to me sounds like wishful thinking and questionable budgetary planning. With self servicing it's a bit like buying a luxury old car, you might throw increasing investment into fixing a machine which is only one expensive failure from being a total write off with no value to recoup from selling it, unlike a car which at least has parts scrap value.

 

[bcr]

to be fair, it's a lot like medical prices. Nothing about that rip costs 75000 to make. It's like 800 in PC parts with a massive inflated mark-up. Xerox recently replaced an SD card with software and it was billed as $250 for a $12 SD card.

Yea - but it's not like you can just build your own fiery is it?