Binuscan has been around for some time. We saw this solution at Drupa and I even have some notes here that I took down on the product. It is based off an ICC empirical measurement model that then utilizes aggressive GCR. Therefore it is no different than other(GCR) solutions except it attempts to make the process more automated and less consulting intensive.
That idea is wrought with potential problems – how do you ensure that the printed press targets are printed well before you modify your separations based on the measured chart. There is big cost in running ICC target on all your stocks. The ICC process utilizes gamut compression, which will limit the quality success of the approach.
Dear Mr Mackenzie,
I would be more than happy to get know how you have concluded that CMS Server has re-invented the GCR, invented just after World War II, like all the other so called "ink save" solutions?
In fact CMS Server does not blindly limit or save any ink at all.
Are you sure CMS Server only base its services/workflows on "empirical measurement model"?
It sounds on you that CMS Server is something that is for the one that does not like standards? For us who use it is opposite: it is the way to control the printer rather then being controlled by it.
You see "potential problems" but have you really seen this problems in the reality?
How come users of this colour management server win ISO (or any desired standard) competitions all the time and any day in production.
They do not only print within the ISO standard, with CMS Server they also print for example Fogra 39 exactly, less then delta 3 on all patches in a IT8).
Are you sure it is such a big cost to make test prints on for example four stocks and two types of screening? 2 hours in the press and 1 hour measuring, all by yourself.
And of course you get assistance direct in press from the solution: to make sure the "printed press targets are printed well", to quote you.
The costs to have an ICC/ISO consultant/guru (self proclaimed or not) playing with rip-curves are far more expensive: we have lots "empirical" proof on that.
May I ask you one more question regarding the subject:
Can you explain how CMS Server can produce a neutral black with a total of 233% ink that is 4 levels (L) more black than the 330% we find in ISO Coated v2/Fogra 39.
In addition to this: could you please explain that in the same job a dark saturated red can have a higher total then the neutral black.
Is that possible at all with conventional ICC-profiles with settings for UCR, GCR, TIC, K start, stop etc.
And finally: how come CMS Server calculate this without any settings at all?
Looking forward to answers and more discussions.
Cheers
Andreas
Edit: Just viewed your Profile Ian and I see that your a vendor of ICEserver, It seemes like the same kind of technology? Of course we can go from RGB to Press with CMS server aswell (increase gamut), but we like to print accordingly to the standard.
Cool.
I asked questions since you seem to know so much, negative things, about our product.
I on other hand, I do not know anything of your product and I would not have any opinions about it even if I knew all the magic about it.
I always make sure I spread the word of what we invent and do, but I do not spread the word of something I am not aware of.
We both represent products and should avoid "hijacking" the subjects for our own purposes.
Cheers
Andreas
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