KM C6501 speed

[GusG]

Can anyone let me know how much a Konica Minolta C6501 slows down on heavier paper. Up to what grammage does it do 65 prints per minute? Their brochures are very unhelpful on this.

 

[benny123]

Its less than 10ppm SRA3 at 300gsm. The Canon 9075 and the Xerox 700 are faster at about 15ppm. If you do lots of heavy stock look at the Canon imagePRESS VP machines.

 

[Steve0]

The Ricoh Pro C900 does 50 ppm at 11x17 at any weight, and 45 ppm at sizes above that (up to 13x19.2) at any weight. Machine is spec'ed for up to 300 gsm.

Steve

 

[Robertjohn]

Can anyone let me know how much a Konica Minolta C6501 slows down on heavier paper. Up to what grammage does it do 65 prints per minute? Their brochures are very unhelpful on this.

Here is what I'm seeing. I'm seeing a lot of people toting for their own product. What you should do is go to your local specialist. Konica Minolta has one or two at every branch. Talk to the high volume specialist and you can get all the specs on the C6501 that you are looking for. They train ONLY on high volume machines (which is a minimum of 2 yrs). I know you asked for an answer and only got shameless product plugs from people with an agenda towards their own company. Unfortunately that is the nature of the industry.

 

[maceric]

Speed is about 16 ppm at 300gsm SRA3.
You can find some more detailed information in this document:
http://digitaloptimal.de/speed.pdf

 

[seejay]

What we recently did:

we took a range of our standard stocks along with a selection of common file types to our local demo centre.

We run several jobs on each of the stocks and accurately measured each one for speed, registration and quality etc.

Not all of our results matched what the brochures claimed, some of the stocks run quite poorly with lots of jam ups or problems, some of their quoted speeds were debatable. Having said that, both speed and quality were excellent considering the cost of the device. Maintenance was a breeze and the philosophy and thinking behind the device are sound.

 

[DianneB]

KM C6501 Speed

KM C6501 Speed

Can anyone let me know how much a Konica Minolta C6501 slows down on heavier paper. Up to what grammage does it do 65 prints per minute? Their brochures are very unhelpful on this.

I run cover weight stocks through our C6500 on a daily basis (weights 210 gsm up to 300 gsm) both one sided and 2 sided and sizes from 8.5 x11 to 13x19. Not sure exactly how many pages per minute, but I can tell you that the machine will slow down drastically. One sided pieces aren't too bad but when you duplex it slows down even more and the larger the paper size the slower it runs. I have had jobs that are 12x18, duplexed on cover stock, qty:300 take upto an hour to run.

 

[GusG]

Thanks for all your replies. Special thanks to maceric, that table was just what I was looking for.

 

[UberTech]

Its less than 10ppm SRA3 at 300gsm. The Canon 9075 and the Xerox 700 are faster at about 15ppm. If you do lots of heavy stock look at the Canon imagePRESS VP machines.

Rubbish! Check your facts.

 

[geoman]

Yeh, I've timed the 700 at 12.5 x SRA3 (simplex, heavy toner coverage) sheets a minute.

 

[JayDA]

I am not a salesman, I have two 6500's running right behind me as I am typing this. I average about 150k clicks a month on each, I have had Konica's "high volume specialist" in here numerous times, and I see my tech pretty much every day. At least half of what I run is 250gsm 12x18 cover, and I average 10-12 sheets a minute when duplexing. If you run lighter coverage pieces that number will go up to around 15 a minute, but I can't recall the last time I have seen that kind of speed. They can say whatever they want on a piece of paper, but this has been my experience in the real world. That said, I'm happy with the machines....at the price point there is nothing that will touch them.

 

[UberTech]

If you run lighter coverage pieces that number will go up to around 15 a minute

Say what?!?!?

 

[JayDA]

Say what?!?!?

Uber, I am not a tech....I am just stating what I have observed. Do I know why it does it? NO....I have no idea. But I just went back and ran 100 sheets of almost 100% coverage, and then another 100 with about 15%. There is no question, the heavier coverage runs substantially slower, I would love to know why....perhaps you know?

 

[UberTech]

Uber, I am not a tech....I am just stating what I have observed. Do I know why it does it? NO....I have no idea. But I just went back and ran 100 sheets of almost 100% coverage, and then another 100 with about 15%. There is no question, the heavier coverage runs substantially slower, I would love to know why....perhaps you know?

I will have to test this, can't say I have noticed it but I rarely stand next to a machine with a stopwatch to be honest. Reasons? if this is infact true then I would suggest the engine calculates the coverage and reduces the speed to prevent the developer tanks from being stripped. Personally I would prefer this to a colour drift. Is the quality setting on your machine set to stability or speed?

 

[benny123]

I will have to test this, can't say I have noticed it but I rarely stand next to a machine with a stopwatch to be honest. Reasons? if this is infact true then I would suggest the engine calculates the coverage and reduces the speed to prevent the developer tanks from being stripped. Personally I would prefer this to a colour drift. Is the quality setting on your machine set to stability or speed?

Answered like a true tech. Personally id prefer speed and no colour drift together. You cant get that from the 6501.

 

[UberTech]

Answered like a true tech. Personally id prefer speed and no colour drift together. You cant get that from the 6501.

Ahhh, have you read the canon threads around here? I really wouldn't be talking about colour drift if I were you!

 

[msaeger]

Answered like a true tech. Personally id prefer speed and no colour drift together. You cant get that from the 6501.

Yeah exactly techs are realistic talk to the sales person if you want to hear that it will do everything.

 

[Wunder08]

We tested the speed of a Xerox 700 vs Oce 665 Pro( KM 6501) on duplex 80lb cover and they both were at 12-13 ppm- 13x19 stock size.

The Oce 665 registration is definately better- we measured during demo Xerox off 1/32 '.

 

[jotterpinky]

you need to take into account the "adjustment" time on these things. We had one in on a demo for 6 weeks and it had periods of "quality adjustment" that could last up to 15 minutes. I don't know about you but most of the short run jobs we put on ours could have been run in 15 minutes. We even had the tech come in and change how often it adjusted...but then the quality went downhill. We ended up purchasing a X 700 and love it. It does stop periodically to adjust for 10-15 seconds but nothing like what we saw with the KM

 

[UberTech]

you need to take into account the "adjustment" time on these things. We had one in on a demo for 6 weeks and it had periods of "quality adjustment" that could last up to 15 minutes. I don't know about you but most of the short run jobs we put on ours could have been run in 15 minutes. We even had the tech come in and change how often it adjusted...but then the quality went downhill. We ended up purchasing a X 700 and love it. It does stop periodically to adjust for 10-15 seconds but nothing like what we saw with the KM

The automatic gamma adjustment on this machine takes about 00:02:36. A gamma setup, colour reg, belt refresh and toner refresh combined don't take 15min. The engine will only do a colour reg and gamma setup automatiically so, at worst, your looking at 5min. During a print run the machine will do a Dmax adjustment which will pause printing for about 30 seconds. For the most part we run factory settings and we haven't had any complaints about colour drift. Maybe you were looking at a c500, they were notorious for this type of behaviour.