Xerox 700 setting up color

[pmkprog]

I am trying to get my color set on a Xerox 700. I have an X-rite ES1000 and typically calibrate the Xerox internally and then use the calibrate through the Fiery Command Workstation to measure the swatches and apply that to the default profiles. My magenta is a running a little strong in the highlights and is a little weak in the around 75%. What is the best way with my limited tools to create a profile for the machine to hit a target I am aiming for? The other issue I have is that on some swatches of some material I am trying to print and color correct the 2% magenta is coming out as a pink in the proofs? The gradients I print look good though.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. All of the testing and targets are being printed on the same stock.

 

[kdw75]

I am trying to get my color set on a Xerox 700. I have an X-rite ES1000 and typically calibrate the Xerox internally and then use the calibrate through the Fiery Command Workstation to measure the swatches and apply that to the default profiles. My magenta is a running a little strong in the highlights and is a little weak in the around 75%. What is the best way with my limited tools to create a profile for the machine to hit a target I am aiming for? The other issue I have is that on some swatches of some material I am trying to print and color correct the 2% magenta is coming out as a pink in the proofs? The gradients I print look good though.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. All of the testing and targets are being printed on the same stock.

I feel for you. I went through the same experience a few months back and it is tough to learn on your own.

First off do you have Color Profiler Suite Installed and Activated?

 

[pmkprog]

We do not have it activated. It is installed. It does not seem the license came with the device.

 

[kdw75]

Ok. In order to get the best results you will need that so you can make profiles for your paper. The factory ones were off quite a bit for us.

You need to go to Device Center then General and then Tools. Then you click on Manage over on the right.

At the point go up to the top of the newly opened window and click on Create New.

You can choose another profiles setting to get started at this point. Preferably something with similar paper weight, but it isn't too important. What is important is that you clock on properties and make sure that your screen setting is identical to what you use when you print. I prefer to use 200 dot and avoid the enhanced selections. They tend to give inconsistent color results. In this same window I also change the page quantity to 5 sheets so that the printer has a chance to warm up a little before each calibration.

Since you don't have Color Profiler Suite installed, this should be all you need to do.

 

[pmkprog]

What version of Command Workstation are you using?

 

[kdw75]

What version of Command Workstation are you using?

I am using 5.5

 

[bcolour]

In your case, you can edit source and target profiles, given that maybe Color Profiler is not activated.
In CWS, go to Device Center, Resources, then click on Profiles. You will now see all the icc profiles the the RIP has. Click on either a source or output profile that you use and which gives you the magenta issue and in the far right of the window you should see the word 'Edit'. If you click on it you can now push any of the curves, affect brightness and save as. Point to the new (edited) profile in your print setup for the job and test the colours and keep on editing until you are satisfied.
The important step before doing this is to make sure you have calibrated the machine at the machine. Then in Command Workstation you use the 'Calibrate' tool to again calibrate the machine and going through the steps of choosing a Calibration Set (select the paper type you are using to closely match one in the list of sets; then print a number of sheets; then measure the sheet; then View Measurements just to make sure the curves look smooth; then Apply; then Done. Then go to Device Center in CWS and select Color Setup then Select the Output Profile you have affected with the calibration step when in CWS check its date. You should see that if you selected the right one, it will shows the current date and time. So without using Color Profiler, you are effectively using Fiery's canned icc profiles and editing their canned calibration set which links to the icc profile. Fortunately, the icc profiles are editable and when you do edit them it may be wise to edit the Source Profile and give it a new name. The output profile looks like it can be edited but because you calibrate using it and its calibration set, it makes sense just to fiddle with the source.

 

[pmkprog]

I have 5.3 on the machine with the Xrite. I don't have the option to "Create New". I have started to use a color profile and that seems to have helped quite a bit. I also have added that to Photoshop for when I am color correcting files. It is not perfect, but a lot closer.