Standard Finishing
4Over

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Archiving RIP data?

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Archiving RIP data?

    Do you archive your riped data? if so what steps to you take to take to archive the rip data and recover it?

    I've been entertaining the idea since we are getting more and more exact reprint jobs, but not sure of the best way to implement it.

  • #2
    Re: Archiving RIP data?

    We don't archive our RIP data, we archive the PDFs that we print from to create that RIP data. Archiving the RIP data was something we tossed around as well, but it was just too much data to maintain.

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: Archiving RIP data?

      Are you talking about the RIP data for the individual pages, or the RIP data for the imposed file (Which is called RSI data) ?

      Comment


      • #4
        Re: Archiving RIP data?

        RIP data for the imposed file would be sufficient, just something so we wouldn't have to re-rip a job if it comes back through as a reprint.

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: Archiving RIP data?

          Yes we do!. We archive the Tiff-B files on our Meta Shooter (the PC that controls the Platesetter).

          The MetaDimension Rip is configured to Copy each Tiff-B to a separate folder on the Shooter, and once a week I browse through that folder and delete any Tiff-B files that will never be reprinted. If we have a reprint we simply drag-and-drop the Tiff-B files on a hotfolder.

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: Archiving RIP data?

            Wow, was I off on that answer. My apologies!

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: Archiving RIP data?

              > {quote:title=jonkovach wrote:}{quote}
              > Wow, was I off on that answer. My apologies!

              Apologize for what? I'm not sure what you mean...

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: Archiving RIP data?

                Well, I run an Onyx RIP and we print to inkjets.... and we run a full PDF/EPS/TIF workflow.... so instead of saving the RIP data, we save the original data.... but we also re-RIP everytime we print again....
                I was just surprised how off base my answer was.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: Archiving RIP data?

                  Don't be to hard on yourself :-)

                  I also save the original data of all jobs we print. The Tiff-B archive is just an extra archive we use for jobs that tend to get reprinted on a regular base. It just saves time, thats all.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Re: Archiving RIP data?

                    I don't think it's enough to archive just the flats.

                    We archive Rsi data for pages and flats then if a job reprints exactly as it was imposed before we restore the pages and flats, but if the job reprints with a different impo we restore just pages and re-impose. We also archive the Preps templates & jobs so we can even work with what we had and make minor changes. instead of starting over completely

                    As for it being too much data to maintain I don't agree. If I know I can restore a job and it will be 100% the same I'd rather pay for the infrastructure to support it.

                    We use a dual-drive LTO-3 library with 24 slots. It's fast, hold masses of data and we can easily create duplicates which we do for all our archives. Not cheap but well worth it.

                    Edited by: Colin Gilham on Nov 29, 2007 10:48 AM

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Re: Archiving RIP data?

                      do you archive the flats with the native files? or keep them separate?

                      what is your process to archive the RSI folders? Is it a manual copy?

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Re: Archiving RIP data?

                        We use PATHway to create jobs and to archive. The Rampage folder structure is created by PATHway and holds all files for the job except Preps templates which are stored in the Preps templates folder.

                        Using PATHway to archive keeps the folder structure intact and just moves it out of the Rsi Jobs folder into a designated archiving folder. We have a second folder to which we manually move Preps templates.

                        Both these folders are set as sources for our archiving script.

                        Edited by: Colin Gilham on Nov 29, 2007 6:06 PM

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Re: Archiving RIP data?

                          Cory,

                          Archive the 1 bit tiff plate files. We have been archiving the 1 bit tiffs to CD or DVD directly from our CTP device for over 4 years. The media then goes into our job jacket, which is pulled as history on the next order, and transferred to the new ticket. Very clean and efficient and handled entirely in the plate room without running the job back through prepress.

                          Connie

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Re: Archiving RIP data?

                            I'll second Colin's reply- PATHway w/ RAMpage is awesome. what I do is choose which jobs may become exact reprints and archive the RSI data at the end of every month.
                            when this reprint comes along a month, a year, whenever, I resurrect the RSI data and make the plates.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Re: Archiving RIP data?

                              We used to archive and keep both RIPped data. The imposed and singles. We now keep everything live and using a tape back up. After the job is billed, the RIP DATA is moved out of the volume into the job on the server. We'll move the files to another server after a few months. Once it gets to be a couple of years old, not used, we'll delete and save it on tape/DVD (both).

                              The PDF is just one extra step and saved with the job just in case we change hardware.

                              Frank

                              Comment

                              UltimateDuploSmartsoft (Presswise)Standard FinishingKBA4Over
                              UltimateDuploStandard FinishingKBAKBA GTIChili publish4Over

                              What's Going On

                              Collapse

                              There are currently 5719 users online. 150 members and 5569 guests.

                              Most users ever online was 6,151 at 11:36 AM on 11-17-2017.

                              Working...
                              X