KM C7000 vs RICOH C751EX

[alu]

That does look good, which side of the sheet is against the back gauge? Leading or front?

And to be fair, what is the crop mark width? (Sometimes a better indicator is to cut through/across the marks so you see the hairline cropmark on end)

Still, looks good!

 

[PrintTriks]

On the rack cards the Front edge, I was cutting it long ways (18 inches). On the Business cards (Red) It was the lead edge(12 inches wide). The crop width mark is 1/2 point.

 

[Alyweka]

How Can i Set a Good Registration on Ricoh Pro C751ex

How Can i Set a Good Registration on Ricoh Pro C751ex

is it Automaticaly sets or i must do some alignement ?

 

[PrintTriks]

I have done nothing to get the sheet to sheet alignment you see. The only alignment I have done is when running front to back, you simply shift one side a bit which is done on the fiery.Coming form an old C Pro500 this is like a dream to me.

 

[Alyweka]

No i mean front to back registration....
I have a skew and bad registration when duplexing front to back on any stock
Please advice me....
I have a ricoh pro c751ex

 

[PrintTriks]

I have the 651(same machine). In the Fiery click on Properties, then the finishing tab scroll down to image shift. look at the job summary to see which way to move the sheet then just use the image shift to move that page over. Really easy. Also are you defining your paper in the paper library, mine is never off by much and I have had no skewing problems yet.

 

[Alyweka]

Thx a lot PrintTricks but i go for tray alignement in the fiery and make all the alignement it said and printing, there is a big skew in all paper don't know why.

 

[Alyweka]

but registration paper to paper is perfect just the front to back is the faulty one

 

[PrintTriks]

I've never used tray alignment, I simply align the back to the front sheet in the fiery. What are you calling skewing?

 

[Alyweka]

Skewing Mean Skewing....the Picture on the Front and Back Has an angle and not Horizontal and Vertical Match

 

[PrintTriks]

Sorry I have had no Skewing issues with the 651.

 

[Alyweka]

Perhaps i have something wrong i will check it
another thing.....i noticed that solid green is printed gradient and not solid and also there is very much banding....have you ever face this in your 651

 

[alu]

Alyweka,
Do you have a service contract for your machine? Have you asked the service technicians these questions?

 

[Alyweka]

Yes i called tech and he is working on it but no solution untill
Now so i asked if someone figure this perhaps it could be
A small trick.....please try printing solid yellowish green
And tell me the result....thx in advance

 

[Emtri]

What sort of green are you printing? Just a 100% Cyan/100%yellow? Also what sort of stock?
Depending on this and other factors, it is possible to see some banding on solids, especially if its a high gloss stock.

 

[clydemoses]

There is a mechanical adjustment for this in the registration unit, it is easy to get to, just take of the cover and you will find it. Should have been taken care of on the Machine set up.

 

[Alyweka]

Sorry for me to be too late for ansewring....
Dear clydemoses i can't understand please explain me what to do

 

[Adworkscreative]

Hi we are in the same situation and have trialled the Ricoh, Canon and Xerox. We currently have a KM. Very impressed with the Ricoh although only duplexes to 256gsm but registration is excellent where as the Xerox 700I was excellent also and will duplex 300 gsm and has fantastic technology to allow for skewing alterations, if required. I cant comment on the KM c7000 as we have not trialled it but we are definately favouring the Xerox for all round capabilites and print finish.

 

[gurusethi]

Hi,

I bought a KM C6000 . I am having a lot of front-back registration and skew problems on all types of paper sizes and weights.

Skew is around 2mm and front-back registration about 4mm . Konica Techs are not being able to solve the problem. Please let me know if anyone of you has gone through the same and had similar problems and if any solution to it.

 

[Joe Duffy]

Hi,

I bought a KM C6000 . I am having a lot of front-back registration and skew problems on all types of paper sizes and weights.

Skew is around 2mm and front-back registration about 4mm . Konica Techs are not being able to solve the problem. Please let me know if anyone of you has gone through the same and had similar problems and if any solution to it.

Poseted in a previous part of this forum:
Please read through this thoroughly even if you've been walked through this process as there are small details that may be causing the issue you are having. Once you are familiar with it it will not take more than 5-10 minutes and you won't have to do it very often once it is set up properly in the media catalog. PM me with any questions.

The C6000/C7000 have the ability to tie all of the registration settings I'm about to walk through to individual media catalog entries. If you do not currently operate using a paper catalog I would suggest you set one up so you can save the proper registration settings for that paper.

In the PF602, loosen the side guides and place 5 or so sheets in the drawer and keep the drawer open - do not tighten the side guides. On the left side of the drawer, you will see a blue tie-down knob that can slide laterally inside a groove. When left loose, the knob will be forced to one side of the groove - slide it to the other side and tighten it to lock it in place. Close the drawer. You'll hear the tray raising up and once it does, open the drawer and it will be locked in the feeding position. Tighten the side guides to be firm enough against the sheets to not have any lateral movement if you place your hand on it and try to move it, but make sure it is not so tight that it is bowing the paper. Loosen the blue knob on the left side to drop the tray back down and load the rest of your stock. This will eliminate lateral movement or whipping at the feeding position.

Once the paper is loaded, go to the "Paper Settings" menu on the UI, hit "Change Set", and hit "Both Sides Adj". There are adjustments for Magnification, Image Shift, and Registration Loop which should all be set to 0 if you've never done this before. You'll see options for "Front" and "Back" along the top, keep it set on "Front" and hit "Chart Adjustment". On the next screen, select "Print Mode" on the bottom. You can select a quantity of sheets by using the number pad hard buttons below the touch screen on the UI - YOU MUST PRINT AT LEAST 3 SHEETS AND TAKE MEASUREMENTS FROM THE THIRD SHEET to properly adjust registration, as it takes 2 sheets to actively register to the paper position. Once the fuser comes to temp the "Start" button will turn blue, hit it, and grab the top sheet. With a mm ruler, measure each line to either where it intersects with the adjacent line or to the edge of the sheet if it does not intersect. Input these measurements and hit "Adjustment Start". This will center the image on the sheet and adjust for proper magnification of the image. When you get back to the Both Sides menu you'll see the 0's have been automatically changed to the proper adjustment.

From the Both Sides menu, hit the "Back" button and repeat the chart adjustment process. After properly centering and scaling the image with the front chart adjustment, the back chart adjustment will allow you to align the back side to the front side (its basically a cross hair in each corner and you input how far off the back is from the front on the X and Y axis in each corner). This measurement is additive, so if you don't get it right the first time you can print out another set of charts to tweak it further. If you can get one corner lined up and see skew in the other 3, move on to the Registration Loop adjustment below.

Once you get back to the Both Sides Menu, the last adjustment is the "Registration Loop" setting. The Registration Loop Adjustment will allow you to adjust skew. The registration unit has 2 sets of nip rollers - a drive roller that is continuously feeding into a registration roller that is timed to turn on and off intermittently. The timing is such that the drive roller will feed a sheet into the stationary registration roller which lags prior to feeding. As the drive rollers continue to feed against the stationary registration roller, it will cause the paper to "loop" or rise up in the center and snap perpendicular to the registration roller eliminating skew in paper. This concept is very similar to a gate system if you are familiar. When set at "0", heavier paper will simply pass through the roller system without snapping. If set too high, you will see wrinkling or jamming in the registration unit as the paper won't be able to feed through it, so you want to set it high enough to effect skew but not so high that the paper can't feed.

To save these to the paper catalog entry (as they will be different for 80# text vs. 100# cover for obvious reasons), hit "Register", pick the name of the paper you are working on if it is already created to overwrite it, or type the name of the paper if it is your first time, and save it. If you've done these adjustments and you still get poor registration, you need to escalate it through your local service department.